"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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I have difficulty kissing a girl for the first time

Vice

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During this weekend, me and this girl that I'm somewhat attracted to were hanging out for most of the day.

I took her around a few towns to a football game (High school game, we were there for like a minute before we got bored and left), stole a pair of spoons from walmart and then got some ice cream, then we went off roading. After the off roading, we went through this nature trail and at the end there was this dock. We talked for a bit and massaged each other for like five minutes and messed around for five more, and then we left because the mosquitoes were bothering us.

We held hands on the way back to the car (I used the situation to my advantage, I grabbed to to lead her out to the road to avoid stumbling through the dark trails) and went back to my house, and it was about 11 PM at this time.

We get back to my house (I live with my parents) and we get in my bed because that's the only way to watch movies in my room, and she gives me a massage (because she owed me for the one I gave her at the dock) and I begin getting quite relaxed. Then as we were watching the movie, she flipped over on her back and laid there, staring at my ceiling. Again, there were a few times that we got close (I was smelling her hair alot) and our faces got really close, but I never went for it.

Now, I know that if she lets me get my face close to hers, that's a go for it sign.

But I still don't do it. I don't know why, even though I know that only good things will happen after.

Can some of you guys share some tips and advice on how to get over this annoying stumbling block? I used to be kiss-crazed, where I wanted to kiss every girl that I made eye contact with, but that was months ago and that fire has died down.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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well you know what to do.... you don't have to ask us.

whenever you kiss a girl, usually for the first time, there is that overwhelming sexual tension in that second or two before you kiss her... You just gotta go for it! Some people like that feeling too
 

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eko said:
well you know what to do.... you don't have to ask us.

whenever you kiss a girl, usually for the first time, there is that overwhelming sexual tension in that second or two before you kiss her... You just gotta go for it! Some people like that feeling too
So I suppose that I should condition myself to relish that feeling of tension.

But how to do so?
 

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Vice said:
During this weekend, me and this girl that I'm somewhat attracted to were hanging out for most of the day.

I took her around a few towns to a football game (High school game, we were there for like a minute before we got bored and left), stole a pair of spoons from walmart and then got some ice cream, then we went off roading. After the off roading, we went through this nature trail and at the end there was this dock. We talked for a bit and massaged each other for like five minutes and messed around for five more, and then we left because the mosquitoes were bothering us.

We held hands on the way back to the car (I used the situation to my advantage, I grabbed to to lead her out to the road to avoid stumbling through the dark trails) and went back to my house, and it was about 11 PM at this time.

We get back to my house (I live with my parents) and we get in my bed because that's the only way to watch movies in my room, and she gives me a massage (because she owed me for the one I gave her at the dock) and I begin getting quite relaxed. Then as we were watching the movie, she flipped over on her back and laid there, staring at my ceiling. Again, there were a few times that we got close (I was smelling her hair alot) and our faces got really close, but I never went for it.

Now, I know that if she lets me get my face close to hers, that's a go for it sign.

But I still don't do it. I don't know why, even though I know that only good things will happen after.

Can some of you guys share some tips and advice on how to get over this annoying stumbling block? I used to be kiss-crazed, where I wanted to kiss every girl that I made eye contact with, but that was months ago and that fire has died down.
You should have made the move before you ever got into a bed. If any woman is "holding" your hand or is in a bed with another male, there is no reason she is there besides wanting some kind of physical contact. Worst comes to worst she tells you no.

Don't get me wrong, I do not like to put others down but sometimes the best lessons are learned the hard way. Stop being a pvvsy.
 

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Next time, look into her eyes for a couple of seconds then softly kiss her.

Pull back, then go in for another one, escalate it more and more.

Just think..."she wants me to do it" and then just do it.
Try imagining the two of you kissing if that helps. It'll put you in the right mindset.

PS. that sounds like a pretty fun day, shes probably really interested in you right now.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I was listening to this kissing and escalation seminar, and now I know for a fact that kissing a girl is no scarier than holding her hand! It's just farther up the ladder.
 
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