"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I have a variety of questions:

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I have a variety of questions for you guys:

1. How many nights a week do you go out sarging at the bars and clubs?

2. What percentage of your game would you say is made up of daytime sarging, and what percentage of your game would you say is made up of night time sarging at the bars and clubs?

3. Do you ever solo sarge at the bars and clubs? Do you ever solo sarge at the bars and clubs on really busy nights like Fridays and Saturdays? This just seems really difficult to me, I've tried it a couple of times in the past week.

4. If your wings are unavailable to sarge with you at the bars and clubs on a really busy night like Fridays or Saturdays, when the bars are really crowded and it is the most intimidating: Is it a better use of your time to stay at home and work on something that will help your inner game like work on personal projects, or is it better to force yourself to go out to the bars? Will you eventually get more comfortable, make some friends at least, and even do some successful approaches? This just seems really difficult to me.

5. I gave up online game when I started the boot camp in favor of real life approaches. So far the boot camp has improved my social skills and confidence, but I've only gotten one number close, and it turned out to be worthless. Well I'm going to incorporate online back into my game - at least I was getting some regular dates out of it, which is more than all the approaching I've been doing has gotten me. Can I get some people's opinions on my profile? I'm considering changing it, I haven't gotten any responses to it, although I haven't really been doing online very much.

My previous AFC'ish nice guy profile ('I like music, clubs, books etc. I value honesty in people etc etc.' total 'nice guy' profile) seemed to have gotten me more dates. But this one is straight from Style's 'solid online game', so I thought that it would work better, and to be honest, this one reflects where I'm at at this point in my life. Your opinions on this profile are welcomed:

Headline: Totally the wrong guy to get involved with

About Me
You will probably think I am cool and interesting. You will also probably think that I'm a selfish b*stard, let's just get that out of the way. I am 5'11", athletic build, black hair and dark eyes, my best features are my lips and eyes. I like dressing well and take good care of myself. I can be stubborn sometimes, and I have really high standards. I am going through a phase right now where I am into partying and making myself happy. I do what I want, when I want - and I don't care what anybody else thinks. Life is too short, I can't be bothered with deceiving anyone or pretending to be something that I'm not.

So if you are looking for someone who will buy you flowers, and have deep intellectual conversations with you about Tarkovsky's films, then this boy is not for you. I should also mention the fact that I think the majority of society has been brainwashed into believing the myth of monogamous relationships. The idea that there is one person out there that you are destined to be with forever seems completely absurd to me, and people who buy into this frame of thought usually wind up disillusioned. In fact, the most attractive and interesting people you'll ever meet are that way precisely because they are open to a wide variety of experiences and relationships. And ironically, it is easier to keep someone attracted to you if you are not trying to restrict them.

A little more about me: I volunteer at the humane society babysitting puppies. I can play the theme from the Godfather on the piano with my tongue. I collect ceramic statues of frogs. I play a mean game of online Scrabble.

If you have major baggage, are sexually repressed or have issues with men please don't contact me. Unless you happen to be Jennifer, in which case you owe me 500 dollars.

First Date
A good first date for me would be coffee and some stimulating conversation. I'd ideally like to meet a hot married woman looking for a well hung, sexually talented stud to fool around with and hopefully make her husband jealous, in order to procure expensive gifts from him.
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I'm pasting the info from fast seduction regarding Style's '@sshole profile and solid online game' that I took most of my profile from, for reference:

Date Posted: 2005/03/22 06:03:00 AM EST
Author: Style
Subject: Solid Personals Game: A step-by-step guide

I've been promising to post this for months, so here you go:

When I first started learning PU, one thing I tried early on was the personals.
I
attempted all kinds of NLP-loaded letters that friends told me were foolproof
and got basically no response. And, if I ever did get a response, I sent an HB
my picture, and then never heard from her again.

So I engineered the personals like I learned cold-approach game: one step at
a time, until I felt it was foolproof. I can now, four out of five times, email
a
girl and take it all the way to the !close without a problem. Shout-outs here
go to Lovedrop, David D, Ross J, Zan, and a guy on Cliff's List who I think is
named Gamemaster, all of whom contributed essential pieces.

STEP ONE: COMPOSING THE AD
It goes against all logic, but the best profile is one in which you are a TOTAL
*******. The first line of my profile is: I'm a selfish prick. THEN I go on to
describe my looks and physique. FINALLY, I tell them that I don't give a ****
what anybody thinks. I do what I want when I want. (Most of this is from
Lovedrop, so I'm only paraphrasing in case he doesn't want it posted.)

Everything in the profile is designed to make me seem like a choosy selfish
******* seducer. My tagline, adapted from Zan, is: "Run away, little girl."

Finally, for the coup de grace, is something adapted from Gamemaster. When
I describe what I'm looking for, I say, "If I had to write a newspaper
personal,
it would read something like this..." Then I go on to describe, somewhat
facetiously, that I'm a well-hung sexually talented stud looking for a married
woman who wants to make her husband jealous in order to procure
expensive gifts from him."

Again, you can figure out your own wording. If you're really retarded and
need it spelled out, let me know and I'll consider posting a link to my
profile.

For the picture, I don't post an actual photo. I post a SKETCH someone has
done of me. If you don't have a friend with art skills, just get a sketch of
yourself done by a street sketch artist or at a comic convention or something.
This way, girls looking for profiles with photos will come across your profile,
but at the same time, you'll be able to hook them with your personality before
they can just disqualify you as not being their type.

Often, girls will write me just to ask, "Are you for real?" because my profile
is
so outlandish.
I'm finding there's two main profiles which work well to attract internet chicks and also remove dating frame. The first is what Style referred to as the ******* profile. DAFS on that if you haven't read the post. It's basically a highly sarcastic/rude profile. The one I personally use makes a mockery of dating while telling girls that I am not a relationship kind of guy, making references to a rotation system etc. The element of humor is KEY, like the low-brow GM style kind of humor that makes girls horny but also a little nervous. If you're just rude without the humor it won't work.

The ******* profile works best on the young, hot, immature, party girl variety.

The second profile I use is a more cerebral version of the ******* profile and is what I call a Pimp profile. It basically communicates the same things as the ******* profile but raises the intellectual quality (actually both profiles require sharp writing style, but what I am referring to is the level of audience it's designed to reach).

Generally it is the smarter, hot, more intellectual and more mature women that will gravitate towards this type of profile. The way I word it is that I am "selling" an idea, and the idea is non-exclusivity. Most guys will just tell a girl that they won't do relationships and that's fine, that can work too. BUT it is more powerful and will get you more chicks if you sell them on that idea first. And that's what the Pimp profile does.

In the first paragraph of my profile I break down the typical belief system about finding "the one", and then I say (quite logically) that "the one" is usually seeing other people because the guys who give all those incredible feelings are usually players, and they are in the game for keeps.

Then I go on to say that I can't be bothered hiding things or deceiving anyone, and that basically I do what I want on my own time, and one of my rules is that you don't ask what I do, and neither will I.

I go on to say more powerful things like how getting used to open relationships takes practice and that like anything it takes getting used to (building a togetherness frame), but is well worth it because it plants the seeds for our true happiness. And ironically it is easier to keep someone if you are not restricting them.

Lastly, I throw in a pattern about how, if you've ever had that feeling of missing out, maybe we can hang out and solve the problem together.

To summarize, I start off with something negative by breaking down the typical chicks belief system and then I go about explaining my personal beliefs on relationships, and lastly I build the chick up positively (using a patterning style) by inviting her to hang out and "solve the problem" together.
 

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bump
 

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I like it. Possible small changes are that I would take out "myth of monogamous relationships," "sexually repressed," and the part about Jennifer owing you 500 dollars.
 

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are you trying the to find the right girl for you, or any girl no matter what she's like? Your efforts seem very, forced. No reason to have multiple profiles in my opinion because you might attract the wrong type of women. Let's say the @sshole profile lands you a date. Naturally she'd be expecting a jerk/@sshole type of guy, but your not, are you....See where I'm getting at?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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if that profile is straight from style's guide - then why does it get me hardly any dates compared to my previous AFC/boring one? same pics with both profiles.
 

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xxSLavExx said:
are you trying the to find the right girl for you, or any girl no matter what she's like? Your efforts seem very, forced. No reason to have multiple profiles in my opinion because you might attract the wrong type of women. Let's say the @sshole profile lands you a date. Naturally she'd be expecting a jerk/@sshole type of guy, but your not, are you....See where I'm getting at?
I'm not trying to find the 'right girl'. I'm looking to have fun with many girls.
This is my only profile right now.
Believe me, that profile is a pretty accurate representation of how I think. I'm not 'hey baby get me a beer!@ <slaps her on the ass>', but that's my attitude right now. I am a smart guy, not crude, but I am a player (er, trying to be as much of a player as I can). I don't want a steady girlfriend right now, I just want to date and have fun.
 

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nonchalant said:
I'm not 'hey baby get me a beer!@ <slaps her on the ass>', but that's my attitude right now.
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yo...what you need to be a part of is a social circle. If your trying to be playa by doing it online and all by yourself, your going to have a more difficult time. Playas rely heavily on reputation, popularity, and there status. You ever heard the phrase, "girls talk"..........
 

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yeah, social circle. i understand. that is a hard thing to do, i don't know how to go about building one. i have some work friendships, just a few friends here and there. i'm not using online exclusively, but it is the thing that has been getting me the most dates, so i feel like i have to go back to it again.
 
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