"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I hate this but, I really need analysis of these texts

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Ok bros I appreciate the hard love. It hurts but I'll get over it. I won't attempt to contact this girl for the rest of the school year.

I already have a date this Tuesday with another girl. I wasted too much of my time waiting for them to break up. I learned my lesson, next time a girl gives me signals like this even if she's in a relationship I'm gonna act on them and not give a ****. I pussied out, and I learned from that.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Don't assume anything with 'signals.' Personally I think IOI's are bullsh*t. You never know until you go for it.

BTW I'm betting this girl knew exactly what was going on here. That "I didn't know you were pursuing" is ridiculous. Actually the same girl who used to give me supposed "signals" pulled the same thing on me, claiming she was surprised or something. Ya, OK lady.
 
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Forty0ztoFreedom said:
Don't assume anything with 'signals.' Personally I think IOI's are bullsh*t. You never know until you go for it.

BTW I'm betting this girl knew exactly what was going on here. That "I didn't know you were pursuing" is ridiculous. Actually the same girl who used to give me supposed "signals" pulled the same thing on me, claiming she was surprised or something. Ya, OK lady.
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Well maybe, but I'm 100% sure she had a huge crush on me (probably not anymore). So I know these signals were legit. When I kino'd her she would lose her breath because she would get so turned on.

Everyone's saying I creeped her out and thats why she didn't respond. But I don't know. Maybe she is just pissed that I kind of wrote her off in my last text or mad or rather disappointed because I pussied out of going after her after giving me so many signals. I've already asked her to chill with me when I was alone at like midnight, which is pretty much letting the cat out of the bag that I liked her and yet she still had this huge crush on me, probably even moreso.
 
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Voice said:
Well maybe, but I'm 100% sure she had a huge crush on me (probably not anymore). So I know these signals were legit. When I kino'd her she would lose her breath because she would get so turned on.
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Then why didn't you progress from there? I don't get it.

Everyone's saying I creeped her out and thats why she didn't respond. But I don't know. Maybe she is just pissed that I kind of wrote her off in my last text or mad or rather disappointed because I pussied out of going after her after giving me so many signals.
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Based on the messages you have shown us, it really doesn't look that way. It sounds to me like you are really overthinking / over analysing all of this in a way to rationalise the situation in a positive way.

I've already asked her to chill with me when I was alone at like midnight, which is pretty much letting the cat out of the bag that I liked her and yet she still had this huge crush on me, probably even moreso.
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So did she come see you? If yes, why didn't you make something happen? If not, then how was that a sign of interest on her part?
 
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UPDATE:

Wow, you guys couldn't be more wrong about what was going on. She was never creeped out by me. I saw her at a party last night and she was excited to see me. She was even with her boyfriend. Lol, funny thing, her boyfriend threw up all over the place last night and she had to clean it up. Never once did she try to avoid me, if anything I was the one who felt awkward because you guys put it into my head that she would not even want to see me. We were totally cool and she still digs me. Its funny because I actually hooked up with one of her roommates who has huge boobs. She just sat there and couldn't get her eyes off us. Every time I gave a girl a hug she would look over to see.

This just goes to show that not everything is written in stone. If you have enough social value, you can do stupid things like this once in a while and not worry about having the girl totally count you out. But the advice to move on isn't bad at all. In my head I did move on and just wanted to have fun last night. Look what I did, I hooked up with a new girl and I already made a date for another one today. Now to me this girl doesn't seem like she's as great as I thought. I mean who knows maybe we will wind up hooking up in the future, but as right now I have 2 new plates and I might as well start spinning them.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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UPDATE:

Wow, you guys couldn't be more wrong about what was going on. She was never creeped out by me. I saw her at a party last night and she was excited to see me. She was even with her boyfriend. Lol, funny thing, her boyfriend threw up all over the place last night and she had to clean it up. Never once did she try to avoid me, if anything I was the one who felt awkward because you guys put it into my head that she would not even want to see me. We were totally cool and she still digs me. Its funny because I actually hooked up with one of her roommates who has huge boobs. She just sat there and couldn't get her eyes off us. Every time I gave a girl a hug she would look over to see.

This just goes to show that not everything is written in stone. If you have enough social value, you can do stupid things like this once in a while and not worry about having the girl totally count you out. But the advice to move on isn't bad at all. In my head I did move on and just wanted to have fun last night. Look what I did, I hooked up with a new girl and I already made a date for another one today. Now to me this girl doesn't seem like she's as great as I thought. I mean who knows maybe we will wind up hooking up in the future, but as right now I have 2 new plates and I might as well start spinning them.
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See it wasn't that hard? March on!!
 
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