IamtheAlphamale
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What the hell are you guys meaning when you say that?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I don't understand what Is meant by treating them like a little girl
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
HOT_CHILLI
Don Juan
my take
From memory i believe it is a form of C & F in which you treat your target as a small, micheivous child. You might tell her off for whinging so much, tell her to not eat so many lollies as it ruins the teeth and so on.
You might also act as a small child yourself and call her names as well as imitate her voice or actions frequently. This generally will make her laugh and slightly hit you on the arm if you're good.
On the thread of acting like a small child, a good, funny opener from a good dating book by swingcat is when passing by an attractive women, stick out your elbow slightly so she bumps into it, then immediately whine: Ow you really hurt me!!! (try saying it half serious so shes not entirely sure if you're joking around)
You could expect them to either apologize or burst out laughing. Its good because it inititates kino and gives you an accuse to stop her if shes moving.
Thats my take on it, hope i was helpful
From memory i believe it is a form of C & F in which you treat your target as a small, micheivous child. You might tell her off for whinging so much, tell her to not eat so many lollies as it ruins the teeth and so on.
You might also act as a small child yourself and call her names as well as imitate her voice or actions frequently. This generally will make her laugh and slightly hit you on the arm if you're good.
On the thread of acting like a small child, a good, funny opener from a good dating book by swingcat is when passing by an attractive women, stick out your elbow slightly so she bumps into it, then immediately whine: Ow you really hurt me!!! (try saying it half serious so shes not entirely sure if you're joking around)
You could expect them to either apologize or burst out laughing. Its good because it inititates kino and gives you an accuse to stop her if shes moving.
Thats my take on it, hope i was helpful
IamtheAlphamale
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I do that stuff actually. But that opener is ****ing wicked
HOT_CHILLI
Don Juan
yeah tis pretty good you should check out Real World Seduction by Swingcat. Its got some real good stuff. just google real world seduction.pdf and should get something.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
War Against Betaism
Master Don Juan
Real World Seduction was my first favorite book and thought it was severely overlooked, it is probably the best book I've read for techniques. It doesn't go over (from what I remember) inner game but it works extremely well as a complimentary book after a person gets their inner game fixed up.
Anyways from my experience the reason why people tell other people to treat women as if they were their little brother or sister is because it basically all in one point sets aside a lot of explaining. How do you treat your younger brothers and/or sisters? Most of the time you're in command. You don't have to hesitate or watch what you have to say to them, you just don't care, you could say the stupidest thing in the world and not give a sh1t what their opinion is. When you're in command a lot of things come naturally such as being funny, being a male every woman desires, etc.
What also makes it easy telling men to treat women like their younger brother or sister is that they will already have experience with it. When men are given the advice to approach women, be ****y and funny, at first they won't have much experience with it and will be struck with a swarm of butterflies in their stomach. In fact the first couple times men probably won't even do it! When told to treat women like a younger sibling, they would already have experience with it making the process easier on them.
Although while I said all of that, it actually depends on how a given person does treat their younger sibling. Some treat their brother or sister like an AFC would with a girl or in the very rare instances, the younger sibling is the dominant one.
Anyways from my experience the reason why people tell other people to treat women as if they were their little brother or sister is because it basically all in one point sets aside a lot of explaining. How do you treat your younger brothers and/or sisters? Most of the time you're in command. You don't have to hesitate or watch what you have to say to them, you just don't care, you could say the stupidest thing in the world and not give a sh1t what their opinion is. When you're in command a lot of things come naturally such as being funny, being a male every woman desires, etc.
What also makes it easy telling men to treat women like their younger brother or sister is that they will already have experience with it. When men are given the advice to approach women, be ****y and funny, at first they won't have much experience with it and will be struck with a swarm of butterflies in their stomach. In fact the first couple times men probably won't even do it! When told to treat women like a younger sibling, they would already have experience with it making the process easier on them.
Although while I said all of that, it actually depends on how a given person does treat their younger sibling. Some treat their brother or sister like an AFC would with a girl or in the very rare instances, the younger sibling is the dominant one.
HOT_CHILLI
Don Juan
yeah that's a good point. Treating her more like a sibling in that informal manner assumes a close bond with her, in turn building rapport.
Unfortunately ive just gone over a bunch of dating books and am just repeating what ive learnt, im still piecing it all together, im just offering what ive got.
I'm starting the Boot camp this year cos im sick of being such a *****, but i am not going to be entirely strict with it. Im in year 12 and not everything there or in dating books always applies to my situation. Although im used to saying hello and talking to random people (i work at safeway) i still gotta try different situations, situations where im NOT comfortable. i usually dont find it difficult to find stuff to talk about though
Unfortunately ive just gone over a bunch of dating books and am just repeating what ive learnt, im still piecing it all together, im just offering what ive got.
I'm starting the Boot camp this year cos im sick of being such a *****, but i am not going to be entirely strict with it. Im in year 12 and not everything there or in dating books always applies to my situation. Although im used to saying hello and talking to random people (i work at safeway) i still gotta try different situations, situations where im NOT comfortable. i usually dont find it difficult to find stuff to talk about though
HOT_CHILLI
Don Juan
War Against Betaism said:
What exactly do you mean by 'Inner game'?
War Against Betaism
Master Don Juan
Hmmm how do I put this, Inner game is your level of confidence, how well you can keep composed in tough situations, etc.HOT_CHILLI said:
Bloke
Senior Don Juan
Molest them.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
All of you guys got it wrong.
Treating them like little girl means you reward her good behaviors and punish the bad behaviors.
If she flakes or disrespects you, then you take the attention and focus away from her and put it somewhere else. She doesn't deserve it until either she figures out what she did wrong and apologizes or you have to explain to her how she has disrespected you.
If she does something nice for you, then you reward her by giving her some attention and focus on her. For example, if she buys you a beer or offers you her number, then you give her a hug and a smooch and tell her she is an awesome girl.
Treating them like little girl means you reward her good behaviors and punish the bad behaviors.
If she flakes or disrespects you, then you take the attention and focus away from her and put it somewhere else. She doesn't deserve it until either she figures out what she did wrong and apologizes or you have to explain to her how she has disrespected you.
If she does something nice for you, then you reward her by giving her some attention and focus on her. For example, if she buys you a beer or offers you her number, then you give her a hug and a smooch and tell her she is an awesome girl.
War Against Betaism
Master Don Juan
That's another one of putting it but I don't think my explanation is wrong either.
Some of the things I keep in mind is:
-Lead the way.
-Be in charge/ the boss.
-Show them you're in control of the situation and they can rely on you.
-Praise them when they do something good ie "good girl, I'm impressed".
-Show them your displeasure when they do something bad.
-Make fun of them.
-Keep the conversations mostly light and fun.
-Get their imagination going/create good feelings. Do this by talking about only things that make them feel good.
It's a good analogy because you need to be a masculine man to bring out a womans feminine traits. They need you to bring out the playful feelings inside them to make them feel attracted to you.
-Lead the way.
-Be in charge/ the boss.
-Show them you're in control of the situation and they can rely on you.
-Praise them when they do something good ie "good girl, I'm impressed".
-Show them your displeasure when they do something bad.
-Make fun of them.
-Keep the conversations mostly light and fun.
-Get their imagination going/create good feelings. Do this by talking about only things that make them feel good.
It's a good analogy because you need to be a masculine man to bring out a womans feminine traits. They need you to bring out the playful feelings inside them to make them feel attracted to you.
It puts you in a position of leadership.
As bleak as it sounds, it's a lot like training a dog.
In fact, sometimes I actually clap/whistle to 'summon' a girl I'm hanging out with. They like to act mad about it, but they always come when I call.
More over, I'll praise her when she does something right (praise, not spoil), and if she does something wrong I may say "BAD JESSICA/ASHLEY/WHOEVER!"
Leadership may not be the right word so much as Control. You want the woman to associate a parallel between your happiness and her own (whats good for him is good for me.) And if done correctly, it can stir feelings of dependence, respect, admiration, and a will to please.
As bleak as it sounds, it's a lot like training a dog.
In fact, sometimes I actually clap/whistle to 'summon' a girl I'm hanging out with. They like to act mad about it, but they always come when I call.
More over, I'll praise her when she does something right (praise, not spoil), and if she does something wrong I may say "BAD JESSICA/ASHLEY/WHOEVER!"
Leadership may not be the right word so much as Control. You want the woman to associate a parallel between your happiness and her own (whats good for him is good for me.) And if done correctly, it can stir feelings of dependence, respect, admiration, and a will to please.