"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Read more...

I Did It

AJTD

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 29, 2007
Messages
42
Reaction score
0
Hey guys
I finally was able to talk with a woman last week and get her email and phone number with no trouble. I was light hearted, secure in myself, confident and she loved me teasing her. Do not want to blow this now, but it has been a week since I saw her and have not called her yet. Is it wrong to wait this long to call her for a coffee date? I've heard Doc Love saying wait two weeks. I think that is too long and she will end up forgetting about me. Met her last Monday. I'm thinking of calling her tonight to set up the date for this week. Advice?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

Read more...

Vice

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 23, 2007
Messages
2,004
Reaction score
186
AJTD said:
Hey guys
I finally was able to talk with a woman last week and get her email and phone number with no trouble. I was light hearted, secure in myself, confident and she loved me teasing her. Do not want to blow this now, but it has been a week since I saw her and have not called her yet. Is it wrong to wait this long to call her for a coffee date? I've heard Doc Love saying wait two weeks. I think that is too long and she will end up forgetting about me. Met her last Monday. I'm thinking of calling her tonight to set up the date for this week. Advice?
A week is seriously too long man. Doc Love is a moron in my opinion, two weeks and she'll forget that you even existed.

The best advice I can give you is to not take advice too literally. Instead, do what feels natural.
 

Interceptor

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 25, 2007
Messages
2,609
Reaction score
135
Location
Florida
Call her tonight.

Stay light hearted, and watch for any signs of testing. Breeze through her testing, dont get uptight or panic. Its fun. And not a big deal.
You like her, and just want to meet up. Thats all.

Dont be needy, dont be arrogant, dont be pushy.
Do not place too much importance on this.
Even if she says 'maybe another time', you can be persistent, but not pushy or desperate, or needy sounding, or angry...

She is not the only woman on the planet.

But call her soon.
 

AJTD

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 29, 2007
Messages
42
Reaction score
0
Thanks guys. I knew it was a little too long to call her. I'm going to call her shortly and will give you an update on her reaction.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

Read more...

AJTD

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 29, 2007
Messages
42
Reaction score
0
Ok guys I called her. Had to leave a message on her answering machine. She is working right now. She is a bus driver. I believe the number she gave me is her home phone number. So...may not hear from her until late tonight or tommorrow morning.
 

guru1000

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
5,299
Reaction score
4,338
1) Knock her off that PEDESTAL

2) Call her NOW

3) Treat her like your guy friends

4) Build Rapport, make her laugh her ass off , then CLOSE.

5) Hang up

Have a Nice Day.
 

Tear Gas

Don Juan
Joined
Dec 30, 2005
Messages
189
Reaction score
2
one week!?? i wait 2-3 days max..do something casual like coffee, lunch or drinks at a bar (if she's that type of girl)
 

AJTD

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 29, 2007
Messages
42
Reaction score
0
guru1000 said:
1) Knock her off that PEDESTAL

2) Call her NOW

3) Treat her like your guy friends

4) Build Rapport, make her laugh her ass off , then CLOSE.

5) Hang up

Have a Nice Day.
Makes sense to treat her like a guy friend because that is how I was with her last week when I first talked with her. Built rapport with her, made her laugh and got her email and phone number. She is working right now unitl 10:00pm tonight. Left a message on her answering machine. If she does not call tonight when she gets home I will try one more time tommorrow morning, if no answer then I will move on. Note to self: Only wait 3 days to call not a week.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

Read more...

Jaxon

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Aug 27, 2007
Messages
205
Reaction score
5
AJTD said:
Makes sense to treat her like a guy friend because that is how I was with her last week when I first talked with her. Built rapport with her, made her laugh and got her email and phone number. She is working right now unitl 10:00pm tonight. Left a message on her answering machine. If she does not call tonight when she gets home I will try one more time tommorrow morning, if no answer then I will move on. Note to self: Only wait 3 days to call not a week.
:up:
 

AJTD

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 29, 2007
Messages
42
Reaction score
0
Ok guys I'm not sure what is going on here but I was on my messenger service a couple of minutes ago and saw my long time female friend was online, yes I do have a couple of female friends. Nothing wrong with that. Well I was talking with her and found out she is interested in me more than friends. Set up a date with her for next thursday. This girl is a HB9 on the scale. As for the bus driver...we will see. I'm not giving up on her yet.
 

DonJuan11

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 16, 2007
Messages
1,667
Reaction score
35
AJTD said:
Well I was talking with her and found out she is interested in me more than friends. Set up a date with her for next thursday. This girl is a HB9 on the scale.
What did she say that you found out she is interested in you more than friends?
 
Joined
Jun 29, 2006
Messages
516
Reaction score
6
Age
37
Location
Plano, Illinois
AJTD said:
Hey guys
I finally was able to talk with a woman last week and get her email and phone number with no trouble. I was light hearted, secure in myself, confident and she loved me teasing her. Do not want to blow this now, but it has been a week since I saw her and have not called her yet. Is it wrong to wait this long to call her for a coffee date? I've heard Doc Love saying wait two weeks. I think that is too long and she will end up forgetting about me. Met her last Monday. I'm thinking of calling her tonight to set up the date for this week. Advice?
you're gonna get laid, no pressure...
call ASAP... its as easy as "what-are-ya-doin?"... let her tell you her life story, then make statements... you make statements not questions, general statements, on her on life...

watch her melt on you.
easy method, I've hooked up with 28 girls at 19yrs old now my friend... cinch, that light hearted phrase you say I can relate to perfectly =].
 

Smack

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Apr 30, 2008
Messages
411
Reaction score
13
Location
Britain
Vice said:
A week is seriously too long man. Doc Love is a moron in my opinion, two weeks and she'll forget that you even existed.
Agreed. I've read some of his stuff and some of it seems a little AFC, whilst others seem totally senseless (like waiting too weeks to call - what, are you trying to fake that your life is really this busy and this awesome that you would usually wait this long to call?).

The best advice I can give you is to not take advice too literally. Instead, do what feels natural.
Unless, of course, you're an AFC, and being a subordinate ***** comes natural.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

Read more...

AJTD

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 29, 2007
Messages
42
Reaction score
0
Ok guys
I called the bus driver woman I told you about one more time. Either she has a daughter living with her or she is just not interested anymore because someone picked up and her televsion was blaring in the background. She kept on saying what? What? When I kept on stating her name loud and clear. She ended up hanging up on me. I'm PISSED!! Do I call one more time or chalk her up?
 

Interceptor

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 25, 2007
Messages
2,609
Reaction score
135
Location
Florida
Dont be 'pissed'.
Its a misunderstanding.
Call her again.

Did you tell her your name?
 

DonGorgon

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 28, 2007
Messages
4,679
Reaction score
102
Location
Studying the fact that all lies contain fragments
Vice said:
A week is seriously too long man. Doc Love is a moron in my opinion, two weeks and she'll forget that you even existed.

The best advice I can give you is to not take advice too literally. Instead, do what feels natural.
Exactly and especially since she is meeting at least 4 new dudes a day minimum..
 

Francisco d'Anconia

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 10, 2003
Messages
15,481
Reaction score
65
Location
Galt's Gulch
AJTD said:
...I've heard Doc Love saying wait two weeks.
Whomever told you that didn't know what they were talking about. Doc Love is all about keeping track of her interest level and what you're saying goes completely against what he teaches. If you have a link to an article where he says that, post it.

In the meantime call her one last time but don't blow up her voice mail begging her to call back. Also, don't digitally stalk her by texting her every couple of hours. Actually, don't text her at all. If the same "bad connection" is made, take it as a sign and move on.
 

AJTD

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 29, 2007
Messages
42
Reaction score
0
Francisco d'Anconia said:
Whomever told you that didn't know what they were talking about. Doc Love is all about keeping track of her interest level and what you're saying goes completely against what he teaches. If you have a link to an article where he says that, post it.

In the meantime call her one last time but don't blow up her voice mail begging her to call back. Also, don't digitally stalk her by texting her every couple of hours. Actually, don't text her at all. If the same "bad connection" is made, take it as a sign and move on.
Yes I know Doc Love talks about a woman's interest level. I heard about this 2 week waiting period from one of his call in broadcasts. He mentioned to someone that called in to wait at least 2 weeks before calling to set up a date. I will see if I can find the broadcast link and post it here.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

Read more...

Top