I can talk to women fine.... but have a hard time making moves/hitting on them.

[D4H]

If im in a class room or something I have no problem starting a conversation with a hot woman/girl.... or just talking to a fine woman that i just meet anywhere, walking down the street, or at a club. My problem is that, I dont talk to them on the level as though im actually interested in them. When I talk to girls in the beginning, I normally just start a regular conversation with them to get them talking, which seems to be a good thing after reading through a few threads here... but what happends is, I end up talking to them and being so nice/friendly (i get them to laugh and stuff) that they end up seeing me as just a friend type material. My question basically is, what type of things should i be saying, or trying to accomplish with a girl if im interested in her as more than a friend. I have numerous girls that when I see, I can sit down and have a good conversation with and we seem to be good friends... but thats about it. Can someone give me advice, or show me links on the types of things i should be saying, or the way i should be acting with the girl if im actually interested in being more than just friends with her? Im tired of having girls that i just smile, say hi to, have conversations with, when i see them around campus. I think im better off than most beginners since i can talk to females easily, i just seem to not be making any moves, or saying the right things, im looking for any help or adjustments i can make.

 

[516]

What you are doing is good. Now what you need to do is read the DJ Bible. There is a link on the top righthand side of this website. Read it all and absorb it. For your particular situation, I would suggest applying Kino. You can read all about kino in the bible and in countless threads on this site. If you do it correctly, Kino is one of the main ways to get a girl to be attracted to you in that "beyond friends" way.

 

[Grey Fox]

You need to build your confidence, don't go out there looking forward to score instead, go out looking forward to getting burned in an attempt to pick a girl up. Madness you say, but you'll find that getting shot down isn't bad at all, actually it will build up your confidence because of that fact.
Also the thing with approaches is this, when you see a girl you wanna pick up and she makes eye contact you have about 3 seconds to commit to the approach. Any longer and you look like a boob standing there just looking.
Just walk up and say hey, if your on a dance floor and a girl smiles at you after you smile at her, move over and dance with her. You just simply have to do it.

-Grey Fox

 

[salthepal]

i know exactly what you mean ..

last girl i did cold approach on in univ. was really cool, chatting , not acting *****y ...

i bumped into her at a book expo in our univ. when i was with a few friends, and i said hi to her exchanged a few words ... my friends' reaction was "is this ur cousin?" !!! i would have prefered if i had gotten "is this ur new gf?"

guys like us are not bad Grey Fox, we probably need a helluva lot more practice ....

 

[red sky30]

wow, exactly what i'm going through bud.

I also have no problem keeping a conversation and getting girls to laugh. But i always have that "friend" vibe going on, even when i do kino. Its like i'm a big brother or something, noone to ever get thier pvssy's wet.

Maybe if i implement touching thier pvssy's casually during conversation things will improve.

 

[red sky30]

I definitely think that this type of behavior is the furthest you can go in the "safety zone" before you start taking the real risks. Like when your just chatting it up, essentially theres pretty much NO risk of rejection. And if you do get rejected, theres never any rejection to a date or anything, its easy to brush off.

Gotta take the next step......

 

[myfriendblu]

You also need to start acting like a jerk more and more. the nice guy route isn't gonna get you anywhere. Not saying a full fledged a - hole, but just a little more bad boy in you would go along way.