Hypergamy and "exceptions"

[AttackFormation]

How do you explain the exceptions to the dynamic?

My maternal grandparents got together the year she became 17 and he became 22, in summer 1951. At this point my great-grandmother had already been trying to set my grandmother up with guys from well-off families on their way up (who were decent/good looking from what I remember of the pictures), but it apparently didn't bite on my grandmother. Instead she got together with my grandfather who had neither any particular education, career or any big material ambitions and who came from a pretty poor, during a period even wretched background. They'd lived in the same area for a while and then they saw each other on a ferry and started talking. They married, had 3 kids and stayed together for around 50 years until they died.

No one and no material gain compelled her to get with or stay with my grandfather, instead like I said my great-grandmother - who by the way disdained my grandfather, lol - was trying to make her act hypergamously with other guys, but it didn't work. How can this be accounted for with theories of hypergamy beyond just "sweeping it under the rug" as an exception without a deep and nuanced real world explanation?

 

[btownbuck2012]

lack of feminism and social media. also because of your grandmothers age and societal expecatations she was probably a virgin.

Compare that with 17 year old women today.

 

[AttackFormation]

lack of feminism and social media. also because of your grandmothers age and societal expecatations she was probably a virgin.

Yeah, that's probably a large part.

Compare that with 17 year old women today.

Jesus christ... lol. Don't give me nightmares bro. They're spent by the time they're in their late teens, earliest few twenties at the most if they're a "late" bloomer.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

How do you explain the exceptions to the dynamic?

My maternal grandparents got together the year she became 17 and he became 22, in summer 1951. At this point my great-grandmother had already been trying to set my grandmother up with guys from well-off families on their way up (who were decent/good looking from what I remember of the pictures), but it apparently didn't bite on my grandmother. Instead she got together with my grandfather who had neither any particular education, career or any big material ambitions and who came from a pretty poor, during a period even wretched background. They'd lived in the same area for a while and then they saw each other on a ferry and started talking. They married, had 3 kids and stayed together for around 50 years until they died.

No one and no material gain compelled her to get with or stay with my grandfather, instead like I said my great-grandmother - who by the way disdained my grandfather, lol - was trying to make her act hypergamously with other guys, but it didn't work. How can this be accounted for with theories of hypergamy beyond just "sweeping it under the rug" as an exception without a deep and nuanced real world explanation?

This isn't an exception.

It was "engendered monogamy." Hypergamy was at work then. Its just that women had spine. They called out women for ****ty behavior.

Today, its balls to the wall female hypergamy on steroids.

Your "exception" reeks of blue pill conditioning and is a Freudian slip. Its a revealing your Psyche. You want your Disney happily ever after.

Its not coming. Man up. Handle your ****.

You lead. She follows or next. **** PC culture. **** girl power. **** marriage and cratered SMV. **** victim hood and single moms.

 

[IKO69]

Those were just the times back then. My grandparents on both sides got together under similar circumstances.

It makes no sense to "long" for those times esp if we didn't live them. We have to adapt to todays times whether it is better or not.

 

[AttackFormation]

Those were just the times back then. My grandparents on both sides got together under similar circumstances.

It makes no sense to "long" for those times esp if we didn't live them. We have to adapt to todays times whether it is better or not.

Never said I longed for those times, I said how can it be explained in the context of hypergamy without sweeping it under the rug like saying "those were just the times".

 

[zekko]

Sounds a bit like the story in Titanic:
Rich, spoiled girl is arranged to marry rich man by her mother, but she wants to rebel so she goes for a poor third class male.
That's the Titanic story, but I think you can see the similarities.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Those were just the times back then. My grandparents on both sides got together under similar circumstances.

It makes no sense to "long" for those times esp if we didn't live them. We have to adapt to todays times whether it is better or not.

Bingo.

99% of men (maybe more) are blue pill cucks hoping for women to need men again. Its over. Its not happening. As in, women will cry wopf and sound the trumpet of victim hood, cries for white knights if world war,famine or crisis hits. I won't care. That ship sailed.

Men need to adapt, improvise, and overcome.

Clinging to a failure model of once upon a time is retarded. Its 83 IQ. No doubt, feminine imperative will resort to the following if and when male genius is required again.

Adaptation is required. Divorce is above 50%. 80%+ is initiated by women.

Adaptation means trolling Sloot gonna Sloot the sec she talks marriage+ pulling top form SMV and stunting.

Its nice to hear someone is a free thinker. Big ups Young blood.

99% of the time, cucks be preaching their attempt to be pretty.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

How do you explain the exceptions to the dynamic?

My maternal grandparents got together the year she became 17 and he became 22, in summer 1951. At this point my great-grandmother had already been trying to set my grandmother up with guys from well-off families on their way up (who were decent/good looking from what I remember of the pictures), but it apparently didn't bite on my grandmother. Instead she got together with my grandfather who had neither any particular education, career or any big material ambitions and who came from a pretty poor, during a period even wretched background. They'd lived in the same area for a while and then they saw each other on a ferry and started talking. They married, had 3 kids and stayed together for around 50 years until they died.

No one and no material gain compelled her to get with or stay with my grandfather, instead like I said my great-grandmother - who by the way disdained my grandfather, lol - was trying to make her act hypergamously with other guys, but it didn't work. How can this be accounted for with theories of hypergamy beyond just "sweeping it under the rug" as an exception without a deep and nuanced real world explanation?

You're comparison is to a time whereby women weren't useless.

Today, women cannot cook or clean. ****, she cannot turn on a stove but, she has an opinion on men and feminist jargon.

Women today can drink like dad. Can not cook like mom. High kill count, a series of used condoms and aborted fetuses.

Cucks call ^^^ that wife then, freak the **** out when having turned a ***** into a house wife goes wrong.

Its cratered SMV. Its bastard children out of wedlock. Its indoctrination of feminist jargon into law, government, education, and places of employment.



Free oneself. Entrepreneurship is the route. Lead. Let her follow.

Marriage, high kill count, not on top form SMV, single mom, debt, student in cultural Marxist jargon etc are liability.


Said women of op era were "uneducated" by gov standard but more dedicated and truly educated then women today in terms of value offered. Its valueless now a days.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

How do you explain the exceptions to the dynamic?

My maternal grandparents got together the year she became 17 and he became 22, in summer 1951. At this point my great-grandmother had already been trying to set my grandmother up with guys from well-off families on their way up (who were decent/good looking from what I remember of the pictures), but it apparently didn't bite on my grandmother. Instead she got together with my grandfather who had neither any particular education, career or any big material ambitions and who came from a pretty poor, during a period even wretched background. They'd lived in the same area for a while and then they saw each other on a ferry and started talking. They married, had 3 kids and stayed together for around 50 years until they died.

No one and no material gain compelled her to get with or stay with my grandfather, instead like I said my great-grandmother - who by the way disdained my grandfather, lol - was trying to make her act hypergamously with other guys, but it didn't work. How can this be accounted for with theories of hypergamy beyond just "sweeping it under the rug" as an exception without a deep and nuanced real world explanation?

This really comes back to disparate logics - nature and nurture. Nature is the scientific interpretation of the world, where you are making reality explicable by looking for it beneath the phenomena of appearances. Note, it is a making, an interpretation, and yet most people's mindset and understanding is ordered this way today.

On the other hand, you have 'nurture'. This is culture, where people are inculturated into a certain worldview or morality. The way they understand the world is not so much intellectual [ideological] but aesthetic, traditional, historical, and ethical. Here also you have a making, but it is not the making of an ideological representation of reality, but a making of a certain way of life... it is teleological, where people aspire toward rational ideals.

These two views are largely 'incommensurate'. The scientific view will see the cultural view as 'ideological', but in my opinion, it is this scientific view that is ideological... as it arises solely from cognitive thought that assumes other ways of thinking to be illegitimate.

The main problem of a purely scientific interpretation of the world [i.e.; all women are hypergamous], is its closure. The fact is there are exceptions to rules. There are ideals as well as norms. There are various interpretations, which keeps our options open.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Or just different expectations. lol