Probably one of the most misused "tool" of the seduction community is the concept of "showing disinterest." This very much relates to my previous "overapplication of kill the desperation" post. But this post will be more focused on Pickup and "technique" as opposed to general ideas and concepts.
Firstly, what is “showing disinterest?” It’s basically you signaling to the girl that you wouldn’t f*ck her even if she offered (Haha, kinda extreme, I know).
Secondly, what does showing disinterest achieve?
1) If you don't show interest in her, she can't really reject you. Basically, it gives us some ego protection.
2) Seperates you from the other guys. If the other 50 guys has been showing interest in her tonight and giving her lame compliments, you gotta break the mold of being "just another guy."
3) Gives you higher value. People like to "chase" things which they cannot have. And if you appear very standoffish, they will believe that you must have very high value because you have lots of options and you don't need them.
Ok, so HOW do you actually show disinterest? You can:
a)****y Funny
b)Neg
c)Push-Pull
d)Freeze-out
e)Self- DLV's
Now, I'll save my own comments on the use of these techniques at the end. But for now, let’s assume that all of the above are effective tools in pickup.
So, what's the problem with showing disinterest?
The timing.
Most DJ's are doing this "hard to get" thing for waaaay too long. There is no need for this.
You know who INVENTED the Neg? Mystery the PUA.
You know what his "rule" on negs are?
Quantity: 4-5. And ONLY use em' in the first 10 minutes of an interaction. And this is assuming she is a MEGA- HB10 with a b*tch shield set to "stun."
Woah...and this man's spent nearly his entire adult life PERFECTING and mastering the subtle nuances of a Neg.
For everyone else, I would recommend 3 negs max. And only use them in the first 5 minutes of an interaction. Then, act as if you've never learnt about it. Remove "negs" from your seduction repertoire after the first 5 minutes of an interaction.
Now, this is just focusing on one "technique" of showing disinterest. But really, how much interest should you be showing throughout your interaction with a girl anyways?
Basically, your interest in the girl appears to be at zero when you first open her. In fact, it may even be at negative if you open with the "you suck" opener. But anyways, it’s pretty low. So, you two keep talking, keep talking...
And your interest level appears to be slowly moving up a PUNY bit. You start laughing at her jokes and turn your body to face her. But then, you throw in a neg or two and a C&F line at her. Your interest in her is fluctuating.
THEN, something amazing happens. She does/says something pretty cool and you genuinely compliment her for it or kino her. She tells you she's a ballerina.
"I LOVE ballerina's!"
You interest in her appears to shoot up! She feels happy and validated and loves you for it. Woohoo!:cheer:
But now, this is where all that seduction info starts to backfire on you. You start to think "Uh-oh. I just showed too much interest in her. She thinks I'm a wuss. Better bust her balls..."
BHAM! You just went backwards there. You showed interest in her, and then actively showed disinterest. This is really incongruent and wierds the chick out.
Sorry ole' boy, but it doesn't look like your getting ‘any’ tonight.:kick:
So, what SHOULD you be doing instead then? Well...here are the only times you should be actively showing disinterest:
1) In the beginning. (i.e. 0-5 minutes of the interaction)
2) When she does something disgusting, lame or behaves badly (insulting you, etc.)
Now, keep in mind I’m talking about ACTIVELY DISPLAYING DISINTEREST. Although I mentioned ****y+ funny in my list above, it is possible to do C&F WITHOUT showing disinterest. For example, if she trips and you say:” You’re SOO embarrassing,” then that’s C&F while showing disinterest.
Meanwhile, “don’t think about me TOO much tonight,” is C&F flirting, WITHOUT conveying disinterest. You can do as many of these as you want (well…ALMOST as many as you want).
To sum up the entire post in one sentence-the girl should ALWAYS know that you wanna f*ck her after the first 10 minutes of meeting you. Even Mystery, the MASTER of indirect game, lets his target know what his intentions are after 10 minutes.
Which brings me to my final point…you don’t HAVE to show disinterest! Its entirely possible (and personally RECOMMENDED) that you show interest right off the bat! If you go in with enough confidence, and enough charisma, then going in direct with “Hi, I just had to come here to chat with you cuz I think you have great presence,” works really well.
But if you REALLY wanna protect that ego of yours, then feel free to “pretend” you have no interest in her. But ONLY in the first 5 minutes! And only when she actually DOES something that you don’t like or disgusts you. Then, the show of disinterest is REAL and isn’t some manipulative seduction sh*t you learnt from some online nerd-site.
Hope this helps!
Firstly, what is “showing disinterest?” It’s basically you signaling to the girl that you wouldn’t f*ck her even if she offered (Haha, kinda extreme, I know).
Secondly, what does showing disinterest achieve?
1) If you don't show interest in her, she can't really reject you. Basically, it gives us some ego protection.
2) Seperates you from the other guys. If the other 50 guys has been showing interest in her tonight and giving her lame compliments, you gotta break the mold of being "just another guy."
3) Gives you higher value. People like to "chase" things which they cannot have. And if you appear very standoffish, they will believe that you must have very high value because you have lots of options and you don't need them.
Ok, so HOW do you actually show disinterest? You can:
a)****y Funny
b)Neg
c)Push-Pull
d)Freeze-out
e)Self- DLV's
Now, I'll save my own comments on the use of these techniques at the end. But for now, let’s assume that all of the above are effective tools in pickup.
So, what's the problem with showing disinterest?
The timing.
Most DJ's are doing this "hard to get" thing for waaaay too long. There is no need for this.
You know who INVENTED the Neg? Mystery the PUA.
You know what his "rule" on negs are?
Quantity: 4-5. And ONLY use em' in the first 10 minutes of an interaction. And this is assuming she is a MEGA- HB10 with a b*tch shield set to "stun."
Woah...and this man's spent nearly his entire adult life PERFECTING and mastering the subtle nuances of a Neg.
For everyone else, I would recommend 3 negs max. And only use them in the first 5 minutes of an interaction. Then, act as if you've never learnt about it. Remove "negs" from your seduction repertoire after the first 5 minutes of an interaction.
Now, this is just focusing on one "technique" of showing disinterest. But really, how much interest should you be showing throughout your interaction with a girl anyways?
Basically, your interest in the girl appears to be at zero when you first open her. In fact, it may even be at negative if you open with the "you suck" opener. But anyways, it’s pretty low. So, you two keep talking, keep talking...
And your interest level appears to be slowly moving up a PUNY bit. You start laughing at her jokes and turn your body to face her. But then, you throw in a neg or two and a C&F line at her. Your interest in her is fluctuating.
THEN, something amazing happens. She does/says something pretty cool and you genuinely compliment her for it or kino her. She tells you she's a ballerina.
"I LOVE ballerina's!"
You interest in her appears to shoot up! She feels happy and validated and loves you for it. Woohoo!:cheer:
But now, this is where all that seduction info starts to backfire on you. You start to think "Uh-oh. I just showed too much interest in her. She thinks I'm a wuss. Better bust her balls..."
BHAM! You just went backwards there. You showed interest in her, and then actively showed disinterest. This is really incongruent and wierds the chick out.
Sorry ole' boy, but it doesn't look like your getting ‘any’ tonight.:kick:
So, what SHOULD you be doing instead then? Well...here are the only times you should be actively showing disinterest:
1) In the beginning. (i.e. 0-5 minutes of the interaction)
2) When she does something disgusting, lame or behaves badly (insulting you, etc.)
Now, keep in mind I’m talking about ACTIVELY DISPLAYING DISINTEREST. Although I mentioned ****y+ funny in my list above, it is possible to do C&F WITHOUT showing disinterest. For example, if she trips and you say:” You’re SOO embarrassing,” then that’s C&F while showing disinterest.
Meanwhile, “don’t think about me TOO much tonight,” is C&F flirting, WITHOUT conveying disinterest. You can do as many of these as you want (well…ALMOST as many as you want).
To sum up the entire post in one sentence-the girl should ALWAYS know that you wanna f*ck her after the first 10 minutes of meeting you. Even Mystery, the MASTER of indirect game, lets his target know what his intentions are after 10 minutes.
Which brings me to my final point…you don’t HAVE to show disinterest! Its entirely possible (and personally RECOMMENDED) that you show interest right off the bat! If you go in with enough confidence, and enough charisma, then going in direct with “Hi, I just had to come here to chat with you cuz I think you have great presence,” works really well.
But if you REALLY wanna protect that ego of yours, then feel free to “pretend” you have no interest in her. But ONLY in the first 5 minutes! And only when she actually DOES something that you don’t like or disgusts you. Then, the show of disinterest is REAL and isn’t some manipulative seduction sh*t you learnt from some online nerd-site.
Hope this helps!