"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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How to Navigate Dating When Rich Or Wealthy?

Clockwerk50

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Next time you do advice, remove yourself from the advice. The first paragraphs you were describing yourself and what you have. Nobody cares, say the advice in the third person for the point to come across.
Not to be the bearer of bad news, but much of the advice in the Manosphere is often based on personal anecdotes or exaggerated experiences rather than science. For example, when someone claims to have a 'harem' of women at their disposal, it may not accurately reflect reality. These stories could either be fabricated or rare occurrences, not backed by sustainable or scientifically supported behavior. The truth is, most people here are not what they claim to be, and the reality is far more complex than the perfect image they try to project. Moreover, much of the advice given is not congruent or practical—it’s often extremely vague and lacks a clear 'SOP' to actually reach the end goal.

It’s a pet peeve of mine. That’s why I didn’t offer any advice on this topic, nor have I done the necessary research to provide proper, science-backed guidance.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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But this thread is not about you...
A thread titled "How to Navigate Dating When Rich Or Wealthy" is not about rich forum members? The original post even spelled it out in bold in the first two lines:

Disclaimer: I'm curious to hear from successful members about this. No shade to members that don't fit the bill but this is for people who actually experience this and not 2nd or 3rd hand accounts(keyboard jockeying)
 

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A thread titled "How to Navigate Dating When Rich Or Wealthy" is not about rich forum members? The original post even spelled it out in bold in the first two lines:
How can we prove that the people who posted in this thread giving advice are rich? (Not to single him out but as an example, by giving advice in this thread, Mr. Amsterdam is claiming that he is “rich”).
 

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A thread titled "How to Navigate Dating When Rich Or Wealthy" is not about rich forum members? The original post even spelled it out in bold in the first two lines:
I don't believe that Amsterdam Assassin has ever claimed to be rich. Quite the opposite, in fact. Sometimes it helps to read more than just the original post.
 

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Am I claiming to be rich?
I think I wrote:

There are levels of 'rich'. I'm at a comfortable level, where I don't have to worry about financial matters for the rest of my life, but that is partially because I live well within my means.

In my previous life I was a personal risk management consultant to people targeted because of their wealth. That is not a comfortable level to be in. And I've seen more than enough of the dark hedonistic side of wealth and success to know when I had enough and retired young enough to enjoy a quiet life.

Being rich doesn't mean anything if you cannot live the way you want to live.
Based on the title and disclaimer, I assume that everyone offering advice in this thread is "rich," which, in simple terms, means "having goods, property, and money in abundance." I chose your name because you can handle the heat, and everyone knows you.

However, the context you provided about interacting with wealthy individuals and their finances makes you knowledgeable enough to give advice, even though that’s through 2nd and 3rd hand accounts… I suppose :/
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Dude. Seduction is not science, it's feelings. Its emotions not logic.

People should share advice not referring to them, because its like a cars salesman "Hey look I am this or that, look how awesome I look/am" and nobody likes that $hit.
You should look into social psychology. It shows the dynamics of attraction and demonstrates that seduction is not only about emotions but also rooted in psychological principles. While it may offer a guide for manipulation, understanding these principles can also help navigate human connections more effectively.
 

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How can we prove that the people who posted in this thread giving advice are rich? (Not to single him out but as an example, by giving advice in this thread, Mr. Amsterdam is claiming that he is “rich”).
There might be varying definitions, too. In the U.S., the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) regulates investments. Investors in hedge funds, for example, need to meet the criteria for a "qualified investor", which is being a millionaire or making $200k/year.

In popular opinion, according to this article, you need to be a multi-millionaire to be considered rich:
And here's where the generations stand on what they think it takes to be considered rich, according to the previously mentioned 2024 Modern Wealth Survey by Schwab:

Baby Boomers: $2.8 million
Gen X: $2.7 million
Millennials: $2.2 million
Gen Z: $1.2 million
 

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@Clockwerk50 and others:

You can tell if someone is telling the truth or spinning a yarn based on consistency of content here. My content is consistent over thousands of posts and some number of years here. I am as I say. My avatar is me, and the photo is an unretouched proof in my 50s.

Downplay your wealth but you do not need to be eating at McDonalds if a good steakhouse is more your speed and you can afford it. Pay attention to the motivations of those around you. That's my advice in short on this topic. Don't be blinded by beauty. Keep your wits about you.

Like the Dutchman I have much less wealth than many I know, but I'm also considered authentic and good company by those same people.
 

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8K is nothing. The other day, I had to fix 40K worth of damage to genuine Brazilian Walnut hardwood flooring caused by an overflowing toilet. I didn't even have to write a check. I just gave the contractor a couple of front row seat tickets for the Taylor Swift Eras tour. No big deal, I've got a dozen more sitting in the safe for occasions like this.


I out-earn my woman, her parents and their entire village in Venezuela, combined!
My wife and I are just middle-class dirt people. We engage in some luxuries, like vacations and fancy restaurants on date nights. Sometimes after we hit up a Manhattan steakhouse, as I walk down the street, I’ll present my leftovers box to a hungry homeless bum, open it up, have him get a whiff of the delicious fatty calories, dangle a slice of succulent, butter-finished, greasy porterhouse steak, moan with pleasure as I eat it, laugh, say, “Sucks for you pal,” and then be on my way.
 

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I’m not wealthy but I have a wealthy relative.

if you’re just trying to spin plates find girls who will put out easy if you spend money on them, have fun but protect yourself and don’t trust them.

if you’re trying to find a wife, either pretend to be average and let her find out you’re wealthy once she’s already committed to you or find a woman on your level of wealth.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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The above poster is on point.

Tbh most women (people in general) really don’t understand wealth and riches. You could easily rent a nice 2 door coupe, take a drive to a high end restaurant and people would think your a multimillion. Where’s most multimillionaires are probably sitting a home eating the same meal for a fraction of the cost.

Also when you really have it like that no one knows besides your banker.
 
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