"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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how to make conversation exciting?

MrMarbles

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First post here. Seems like a nice community you guys got here.

Anyway, bit of background about myself - I used to be very shy. When I was a kid sometimes I used to be afraid to even ask strangers time or directions. Now I've largely outgrown that. Of course I still feel some anxiety when approaching a strange woman for example, as does everyone I imagine, but overall my problem is a bit different. It seems like when I try to make conversation, it either does not go anywhere or becomes too dry and factual. All I can do is ask questions like "where do you live?" "what do you do?". I'm not quite the natural type A personality and being funny and spontaneous can be difficult for me. With guys at least it is easier because you can talk about stuff like sports, politics or video games etc. With women it's not so simple. Any ideas?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I find that if you want to make the conversation exciting, the key is for you yourself to be excited about it. Easier said than done, I know, but after a while you get better at it (I'm still improving myself). Just find something that excites you and talk about that. Don't worry whether or not it will excite her; if your excitement is strong enough the emotion will transfer to her -- she will enter your "frame", as people here call it.

The emotion behind the words matters more than the words. It's the emotion that's really being communicated. She'll remember how she felt more than what was said.

Another thing that helps free you up to be exciting is: stop putting pressure on yourself to be exciting! Some of my most boring conversations came about when I was trying really hard to be exciting. Just stop giving a sh*t what the outcome is and have fun! (Again, easier said than done, but something to work towards).
 

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I've already said this in another thread, but I'll say it here. Don't feel like you have to shy away from politics if it's something you're interested in. It's a hot topic that produces enthralling conversations, especially with it being an election year.

Everyone says it's the #1 topic to stay away from when you first meet a girl, but I think that's nonsense. I've gotten laid so many times since the primaries started by initiating political conversations that I've lost count.

My current favorite opener: "So who you got in November, the old man or the Muslim?"

Don't knock it 'till you try it.
 

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Interesting. So I guess it is more about delivery than the content. I'll try that. Now the next step would be to make it personable and add sexual excitement to it (otherwise I could end up in the friend zone). Would neg hits and kino work here?
 

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BrianKozmo said:
They must be uneducated sluts, cause he's definitely not a Muslim. lol.
Then you know you may have a small gem if she points that fact out. If she just goes with it she probably doesn't know JFK from FDR.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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