"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How to ask for a number?

claphamski

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Ok this may seem like a stupid question, but once conversation has been initiated and all's going good, I can never seem to find the right word's to get a number without completely looking obvious in my intentions. I was talking to a girl on the bus the other day, we got off (the bus), walked for a bit until we had to go our separate ways. I new what I wanted (i.e. her number), but what's the DJ way of getting it or at least asking (or whatever other verb you'd use) ?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I just make some comment that fits into the convo, and almost in the same breathe just add "... let me get your number" as I reach into my pocket for my phone.
 

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"Hey look, I've gotta get going. Very nice talking to you. We should do this again. How can I get back in touch with you?"

^

This is very smart and it will probably work in a plethora of cases you'll run into. Just memorize it and you have one solid tool to get their number or email, or whatever.

Because people are naive and they will genuinely think you are wondering how to get back in touch with them.

Great contribution, Espi.
 

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claphamski said:
Ok this may seem like a stupid question, but once conversation has been initiated and all's going good, I can never seem to find the right word's to get a number without completely looking obvious in my intentions. I was talking to a girl on the bus the other day, we got off (the bus), walked for a bit until we had to go our separate ways. I new what I wanted (i.e. her number), but what's the DJ way of getting it or at least asking (or whatever other verb you'd use) ?
Step 1: Open
Step 2: Build comfort
Step 3: Break rapport (aka flirting)
Step 4: Build commonalities
Step 5: Seed reasons to meet up later
Step 6: Ask for a good way to keep in touch (for the purpose of following up on the reasons stated in step 5).
Step 7: Continue talking for a 5 minutes or more so not to seem like a pickup attempt.


Boilermaker said:

"Hey look, I've gotta get going. Very nice talking to you. We should do this again. How can I get back in touch with you?"

^

This is very smart and it will probably work in a plethora of cases you'll run into. Just memorize it and you have one solid tool to get their number or email, or whatever.

Because people are naive and they will genuinely think you are wondering how to get back in touch with them.

Great contribution, Espi.
Exactly, that's what I used, and for that reason. Big thanks to Adam Lyons for putting me onto that one.
 

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Man, it's ok to be "obvious" in your intentions.

Remember AFCs are the ones who get friended by trying to go under the radar. Alpha males state their interest up front while still not being outcome dependent.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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If you really want to touch it there is nothing wrong if you just ask for the number!
Have confidence!
Good luck!
 

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GaryUranga said:
Man, it's ok to be "obvious" in your intentions.

Remember AFCs are the ones who get friended by trying to go under the radar. Alpha males state their interest up front while still not being outcome dependent.
This.
Once you get it into your head that it's OK to be obvious, getting a girl's number will suddenly become a much easier task. Most guys are too afraid of showing their intentions because they think it will offend or scare off the woman. Not true, women would much rather have a guy who knows what he wants and goes for it.
 

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why wouldn't you want your intentions to be obvious?

i do paper and pen

i hand her the paper and the pen and say "here, write your number down"

if you want to hand her your phone and tell her to input her information, i'm sure that will work as well
 

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Any of the above will work. It isn't critical. Although I like espi's method best.

I use, "I'd like to give you a call sometime. What's your number?"

Don't worry about it being "obvious." She isn't stupid. She knows exactly why you want her number. It's ok. You won't be the first guy to ask for her number and probably not the last.
 

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Are you really worried about being obvious? To tell you the truth, most attractive girls just assume the guys who are chatting her up are attracted to her. Especially the first time you meet. This is perhaps why women evaluate so quickly and form an impression of you.

By the way, girls seem to be perfectly fine giving out their numbers, so that is hardly even part of the game. Unless you're cold approaching strangers, that is.

Oh, and the pen and paper thing...that's one of David DeAngelo's techniques. In this technique, you're supposed to ask for an email. It differentiates you from all the guys who ask for phone numbers, and you can always get her number via email.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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that best way to get her number is have her give it to you!!!!! dont ask let her give it to you then you know this chick digs you.
 

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that best way to get her number is have her give it to you!!!!! dont ask let her give it to you then you know this chick digs you.
 

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You don't ask her, you TELL her to give it to you. Best way to avoid fakes is to have her give it to you, put it in your phone and tell her ok I'm gonna text you mine.

If she doesn't comply oh well move on. Don't waste time, get them digits and get on.
 
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I actually had an interesting number close this past weekend where I picked up a bottle hotstess at a nightclub by saying this "hey, I don't think this is gonna work out between me a you, but I think you should give me your number so we can write up the divorce papers and be civil about this" I then took me phone and assumed the close by putting my phone in her front of her she took it and put her number in LOL
 

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Dang... i must have it backwards. I NEVER ask for their numbers. Even if they insist on giving it to me I'd always say my battery is dead or something similar.

"I'll give you mines, call me when your free"
-- -- , hit me up later or whenever.


Not having their number allows be to place the ball entirely in their court - besides, I have a life! :) . Saves me a shi*tload of time via the sorting out process.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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claphamski said:
Ok this may seem like a stupid question, but once conversation has been initiated and all's going good, I can never seem to find the right word's to get a number without completely looking obvious in my intentions.
I'm the opposite, I always want to be obvious in my intentions. If I'm talking to a girl and I want to get to know her better, I get my phone out, hand it to her and ask her to punch her number in, depending on the level of interest from the said girl it usually is the simplest way for me to get the number close.
 
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Marvin Gaye said:
Congratulations: You get to be the 68th number in my phone!
That's a fun way of going about it, it reminds of those irritating pops up you get on musical lyric websites. "Congratulations, you are our 999, 999th person to visit this website, you win an IPad2.
 

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claphamski said:
I can never seem to find the right word's to get a number without completely looking obvious in my intentions.
I must have missed the memo. Since when do real men speak in circles? Is there some Konami code we need to enter before we can talk to women now?

Here's how I, or any regular (and even irregular) human being would do it.
"Hey, I'd love to continue this another time. What's your number?"

You're over-thinking it, chief. Admit that you were too afraid to ask. It's alright - we can help with that. Don't complicate simple things.
 

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If she doesn't comply oh well move on.
exactly. this is the proper frame to operate from

you only control that you request her information. how she reacts to your request is not something you control and not something you should feel invested in the outcome about ("you can't lose what you never had in the first place")

i'd much rather spend my time and effort starting a new interaction with a girl who may very well comply with what i want, instead of wasting my time and energy on a girl who has just demonstrated to me that she isn't going to comply
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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