"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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How long to wait?

Being_the_Don

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I know that a lot of you guys don't like the online dating thing, even one of the mods told me not to waste my money with it. Okay, so I went an joined one of the online sites. I want to keep my options open and the women I'm interested in well there just aren't enough of them where I live.

So I get replies to my ad and I also check out profiles and send mesages to women who I'm interested in. I get decent a decent number of replies to those emails but I'm not meeting any of them yet. So last week I emailed a woman who lives in another city about 3 hours drive from me. She emailed me back and gave me her phone number and regular email address. Yesterday I called her up but got her voice mail. She sounds cool. So I left her a message to call me back. This morning she called me up. But I'm also thinking why answer it right away build the mystery. The DJ Bible says to do it anyway. And I didn't post a pic on my ad because I was wanting this to work for me, I've got mixed results a couple of unattractive females sent unwanted messages to me and I quickly blocked them, but most of the ladies are definitely within the HB7-8.5 range. So when that woman left me her number and email address she called me a mystery guy. So it shows that the DJ Bible can be applied to online dating, too. Anyway, she called me this morning and it rang 10 times. I didn't answer it. Then she hung up and called right back and it rang 14 minutes. I didn't answer it again.

How long should I wait? I'd like to let her call again just to build up more interest on her part. It's different than when meeting a woman face to face. When that happens it's easier to get her email address or phone number and set up a date. And like I said in the action dates thread I want to do things that are fun. I can hold my own in a conversation and yes, women do like to talk about themselves but I like to have fun, play Frisbee, pool, something.

Everyone's got their own opinion on it but how long should I wait for her to call me back? Or should I just call her up later and pretend I didn't know she called me?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Scought

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Why an interest in a woman 3-hours away?

That's a lot of gas money, time, and effort for a woman. I would suggest finding someone closer.
 

Being_the_Don

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Scought said:
Why an interest in a woman 3-hours away?

That's a lot of gas money, time, and effort for a woman. I would suggest finding someone closer.

I know what you're saying but why limit myself? If it works well on the phone, email then I can visit and she can, too. It's about keeping my options open.
 
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