How long does your first interaction lasts?

[Maximummax]

If you go to bars/clubs or doing day game... how long you usually interact before getting digits

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

Bars and clubs? I'm more calculated and really only try to get a number or media profile based on IOIs. I'd say 10ish or so minutes. Possibly shorter if we really seem to click, longer if I'm gaming a group and am somewhat indecisive about which one I want to ask or decide not to. With day game I'm much quicker. There are fewer distractions typically and you can usually flow into a date suggestion based off of some common ground, topic, or interest. The number seems a natural progression because "duh, if you're going to come along, you'll need to know when and where to be and I'll have to tell you!"

To maximize those opportunities, never use a delivery service, call center, drive through, self checkout, you get the idea. Some people are (I wish I didn't see myself type this) surprised just how easy it is to tech or modern convenience yourself right out of a real fun time with a real cute girl. Cashiers, waitresses, retail workers, kiosk girls, etc are more approachable than doomsayers think. And even if you get refusal or rejection, did you get a smile? I like seeing women smile and react positively and their mood shifts when they notice I am around. I've even had some women I interact with later ask me how something went. Then I'll tell them about how fun it was and let their imagination wander about if I'd gone with another lady or if she missed out bigtime.

That's just how I do it. I don't waste much time with day game I'm usually to the point. Night game is different with more switches and knobs in play. That, and you're likely to have some competition. It is also a lot easier to have an approach not go well due to other factors. Substances and peer pressure can work against both parties as well. From either side, there are nuanced factors that might not align with just getting the digits, a ONS or a kiss close. Then again, those factors could work well for BOTH of you and you may wind up doing all three.

Ultimately, people had to meet somewhere someplace.

 

[Maximummax]

Bars and clubs? I'm more calculated and really only try to get a number or media profile based on IOIs. I'd say 10ish or so minutes. Possibly shorter if we really seem to click, longer if I'm gaming a group and am somewhat indecisive about which one I want to ask or decide not to. With day game I'm much quicker. There are fewer distractions typically and you can usually flow into a date suggestion based off of some common ground, topic, or interest. The number seems a natural progression because "duh, if you're going to come along, you'll need to know when and where to be and I'll have to tell you!"

To maximize those opportunities, never use a delivery service, call center, drive through, self checkout, you get the idea. Some people are (I wish I didn't see myself type this) surprised just how easy it is to tech or modern convenience yourself right out of a real fun time with a real cute girl. Cashiers, waitresses, retail workers, kiosk girls, etc are more approachable than doomsayers think. And even if you get refusal or rejection, did you get a smile? I like seeing women smile and react positively and their mood shifts when they notice I am around. I've even had some women I interact with later ask me how something went. Then I'll tell them about how fun it was and let their imagination wander about if I'd gone with another lady or if she missed out bigtime.

That's just how I do it. I don't waste much time with day game I'm usually to the point. Night game is different with more switches and knobs in play. That, and you're likely to have some competition. It is also a lot easier to have an approach not go well due to other factors. Substances and peer pressure can work against both parties as well. From either side, there are nuanced factors that might not align with just getting the digits, a ONS or a kiss close. Then again, those factors could work well for BOTH of you and you may wind up doing all three.

Ultimately, people had to meet somewhere someplace.

Thank you for the response , I have been out of gaming for a while . I do go out in then day time and meet women in stores mostly , I don’t have problem striking up conversation . For some reason I am unable to generate attraction in short period of time …not sure what I am doing wrong .. I dress up moderatelt and have no tattoos


help me understand please , how can I improve …

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

Thank you for the response , I have been out of gaming for a while . I do go out in then day time and meet women in stores mostly , I don’t have problem striking up conversation . For some reason I am unable to generate attraction in short period of time …not sure what I am doing wrong .. I dress up moderatelt and have no tattoos


help me understand please , how can I improve …

Oh man, no worries. 0. 0. You're doing better than you think. You're leagues ahead of most of your competition. You likely know that to some extent. If what you're wanting to do is generate the attraction early, I'm not sure about it. What I do is peak her interest enough that she wants to do something with me or allows me the number. I figure if she agrees to one or both of those, she's already got some base level of attraction there to go off of.

Although, if and when she DOES meet up with you, you need to maintain that level of attraction she has or get her even more interested or find you more sexy than she did before. I wouldn't say you're doing anything wrong. Moderate dress with 0 tats actually doesn't close too many doors. You've got a pretty wide span to work with across the board with social cliques.

I think you should just keep plugging away at it! You're going to get a feel for what makes women smile, blush, look you in the eye or look away etc. Do the things that make her react positively that you also enjoy doing! That's gonna be the 'sweet spot.' When you use that 'sweet spot' it makes things a heck of a lot easier.

 

[Divorced w 3]

bar: 15-20
Date 1; couple hours, activd
2: active, couple more hours
Phone call for 20-30
3: active, no time limit, sex

assuming you actually like her, that’s anti dump condensed

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

I no longer get digits the conventional way, I gauge how attracted she is to me and act if I believe there is a good margin.

If I get rejected I apologize and say I got it wrong and leave without giving her a chance to waste extra time or energy on my side, if I'm successful I keep progressing.

If I reach a certain threeshold I try to go for the goal, at that point even if it doesnt happen I still know there is solid interest behind it so there go for the digits.

I have zero patience for texting, planning dates, scheduling or even get too far from my area therefore I skip the whole get the digits/plan the date phase in a conventional way.
I dont put any effort unless I have an overwhelming chance for a good outcome.

I dont suggest this approach to other guys, it works only if your libido and need for validation is below average and totally under control.

 

[Velasco]

1-3 mins is enough time to take in what you look like and can tell your not weird/ok to hookup with and exchange contact info with