Nexus Polaris
Senior Don Juan
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- Feb 10, 2007
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Okay, so after realizing awhile back that knowing a bunch of techniques but lacking the confidence to back them up will essentially net you nothing in terms of success with women, I decided to take a break from the game and work solely on my inner game. I refused to go back to trying to pick up women until I had a rock solid frame. Until I had become an unbendable, unbreakable MAN.
And I have to say, for the most part, the last two and a half months have been very successful. I feel like a completely different person on the inside. I started filling in as a temporary door guy/bouncer at a bar and doing martial arts training with a friend of mine who is a black belt as well as plenty of reading and self affirmation stuff. It’s done wonders for my confidence. Just tonight, my best friend of my entire life (seriously, we met in pre-school) commented on how proud he was of me because I seemed so different. This guy has been busting my balls for years to stop whining and man up, and now he’s giving me props for doing so.
Anyway, here’s the deal. After getting the confidence and other necessary things squared away, it has become very obvious to me that my biggest and most blatant problem keeping me from succeeding with women now is my sheer lack of conversational skill. It is RETARDEDLY bad.
I never noticed until recently how most of my friends are very outgoing and talkative people and how most of our conversations are very one way. They talk for 5 minutes, and I just provide the necessary “yeahs” and “uh huhs.”
I have practiced honing my small talk skills with them and literally every person I have come in contact with. Not just hot women; regular women, unattractive women, men, animals, inanimate objects, you name it. And it just doesn’t seem to be getting any better. And it’s frustrating as all hell.
There was this HB8 at work that actually seemed to be kind of digging me when I first started on. I was pretty sure I at least had a shot. And the first few times we talked, I kept it short and made a point to break rapport and go back to work after a very short interaction. And it seemed to work. But the longer the conversations seemed to try to become, the more awkward silences, the more forced the conversations felt, and the more I could feel her interest waning.
Long story short, she went from walking me out after work to going to get dïck from some other guy tonight without so much as even a goodbye.
And it’s not just this chick. It’s everybody I talk to. Unless they carry the conversation, it’s a complete disaster. I had an equally awkward conversation with another girl at the end of the night tonight that I already knew who asked for my number and insisted that we hang out sometime. But that didn’t really mean anything because she had already made up her mind she wanted my còck before we started talking tonight. So the horribly start/stop conversation didn’t matter.
My question is do any of you know any way to really sharpen your conversational skills and be able to just flow more naturally with people in general? I have a really hard time just vibing with people, and even with an absurd amount of practice, I don’t really seem to be getting much better.
It’s frustrating.
And I have to say, for the most part, the last two and a half months have been very successful. I feel like a completely different person on the inside. I started filling in as a temporary door guy/bouncer at a bar and doing martial arts training with a friend of mine who is a black belt as well as plenty of reading and self affirmation stuff. It’s done wonders for my confidence. Just tonight, my best friend of my entire life (seriously, we met in pre-school) commented on how proud he was of me because I seemed so different. This guy has been busting my balls for years to stop whining and man up, and now he’s giving me props for doing so.
Anyway, here’s the deal. After getting the confidence and other necessary things squared away, it has become very obvious to me that my biggest and most blatant problem keeping me from succeeding with women now is my sheer lack of conversational skill. It is RETARDEDLY bad.
I never noticed until recently how most of my friends are very outgoing and talkative people and how most of our conversations are very one way. They talk for 5 minutes, and I just provide the necessary “yeahs” and “uh huhs.”
I have practiced honing my small talk skills with them and literally every person I have come in contact with. Not just hot women; regular women, unattractive women, men, animals, inanimate objects, you name it. And it just doesn’t seem to be getting any better. And it’s frustrating as all hell.
There was this HB8 at work that actually seemed to be kind of digging me when I first started on. I was pretty sure I at least had a shot. And the first few times we talked, I kept it short and made a point to break rapport and go back to work after a very short interaction. And it seemed to work. But the longer the conversations seemed to try to become, the more awkward silences, the more forced the conversations felt, and the more I could feel her interest waning.
Long story short, she went from walking me out after work to going to get dïck from some other guy tonight without so much as even a goodbye.
And it’s not just this chick. It’s everybody I talk to. Unless they carry the conversation, it’s a complete disaster. I had an equally awkward conversation with another girl at the end of the night tonight that I already knew who asked for my number and insisted that we hang out sometime. But that didn’t really mean anything because she had already made up her mind she wanted my còck before we started talking tonight. So the horribly start/stop conversation didn’t matter.
My question is do any of you know any way to really sharpen your conversational skills and be able to just flow more naturally with people in general? I have a really hard time just vibing with people, and even with an absurd amount of practice, I don’t really seem to be getting much better.
It’s frustrating.