Game,action,attraction,etc. Is it biologically decided? Societally? Socially? I know half the answer is getting off my ass and getting out there,yet I feel like I have been out of it for so long that it's hard. Like I am a bit behind. And that I will be embarassingly I don't know,looked down on. Seriously,this is a big fear I have. I don't if I am being realisitic or not.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
If you meet a woman without all this b.s. you could live happily ever after...
but you will have built your house on sand..uncertain of how to manage your social life things may go bad
im not quit sure what you are asking so please be more specific
but you will have built your house on sand..uncertain of how to manage your social life things may go bad
im not quit sure what you are asking so please be more specific
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Attraction, feelings of love, want, sexual desire, etc. are all very dynamic.
This is what I know:
Attraction of facial features is nearly universal, faces which are considered attractive in one society are also considered attractive in others. In has nothing to do with media and such because faces shown to primitive people living in the amazon who were never exposed to Western media still agree on which faces are attractive and which are not. More than likely it is biologically based to help select the most healthy mates as there is some evidence for this based on symmetery or faces and such. It's very complicated and there are thousands of studies, but the above is a good synopsis and all most people need to know.
Body is also somewhat standardized, however, in some AIDS and starvation ridden areas a heavier body type may be prefered as a sign of health. I've seen a number of studies that conclude women prefer an atheletic, medium build in men. Also, men who are tanned with dark features seem to be prefered, but if you run out and tan everyday you'll probably look 85 at 35 so....... Also different hair colors match different skin colors and such, so this hardly means everyone should run out and dye their hair... I am only talking about averages here.
In my personal experience a man's good looks will only get him so far. It will get him laid by a certain segment of women, but if he has zero charisma and doesn't connect with people, most women I've met seem turned off by guys like that, especially if the guy acts like a spineless, wuss bag or disassociated with others and possibly a psycho.
Studies suggest women prefer men who are charismatic, warm, attractive, well-groomed, and humerous. This also matches my personal experience. Most guys see life as a competition and so they watch their every move like a hawk hoping to "get one over" on someone else and thus there is always a weird group dynamic when these people are around. I find it better to be a leader, not a dictator, to be democratic and fun to be around, not atocratic and so-serious, to make the group more fun to be around, not to "destroy the competition", to let women become attracted to me rather than constantely trying to do or say the right thing to "make her attracted".
There is a lot of advice out there based on mistaken ideas and a feeling that one is so far behind that he has to do something incredible to be equal to others, to be good enough to be accepted. I think these same guys have apparently never walked into a bathroom after an attractive woman just took a massive dump, they don't seem to realize that we are all just people. Furthermore, first impressions are often wrong. There are so many times I was initially turned off by a woman, but after I got to know her found out she was really cool or maybe I thought she was a prude and ended up being a wild child who rocked my world, giving people the benefit of the doubt, not jumping to conclusions or trying to be the big, bad man no one can relate to has been better for me.
This is what I know:
Attraction of facial features is nearly universal, faces which are considered attractive in one society are also considered attractive in others. In has nothing to do with media and such because faces shown to primitive people living in the amazon who were never exposed to Western media still agree on which faces are attractive and which are not. More than likely it is biologically based to help select the most healthy mates as there is some evidence for this based on symmetery or faces and such. It's very complicated and there are thousands of studies, but the above is a good synopsis and all most people need to know.
Body is also somewhat standardized, however, in some AIDS and starvation ridden areas a heavier body type may be prefered as a sign of health. I've seen a number of studies that conclude women prefer an atheletic, medium build in men. Also, men who are tanned with dark features seem to be prefered, but if you run out and tan everyday you'll probably look 85 at 35 so....... Also different hair colors match different skin colors and such, so this hardly means everyone should run out and dye their hair... I am only talking about averages here.
In my personal experience a man's good looks will only get him so far. It will get him laid by a certain segment of women, but if he has zero charisma and doesn't connect with people, most women I've met seem turned off by guys like that, especially if the guy acts like a spineless, wuss bag or disassociated with others and possibly a psycho.
Studies suggest women prefer men who are charismatic, warm, attractive, well-groomed, and humerous. This also matches my personal experience. Most guys see life as a competition and so they watch their every move like a hawk hoping to "get one over" on someone else and thus there is always a weird group dynamic when these people are around. I find it better to be a leader, not a dictator, to be democratic and fun to be around, not atocratic and so-serious, to make the group more fun to be around, not to "destroy the competition", to let women become attracted to me rather than constantely trying to do or say the right thing to "make her attracted".
There is a lot of advice out there based on mistaken ideas and a feeling that one is so far behind that he has to do something incredible to be equal to others, to be good enough to be accepted. I think these same guys have apparently never walked into a bathroom after an attractive woman just took a massive dump, they don't seem to realize that we are all just people. Furthermore, first impressions are often wrong. There are so many times I was initially turned off by a woman, but after I got to know her found out she was really cool or maybe I thought she was a prude and ended up being a wild child who rocked my world, giving people the benefit of the doubt, not jumping to conclusions or trying to be the big, bad man no one can relate to has been better for me.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
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ItsOnNow said:Why is it some start earlier than others? Seriously,how much does looks,height,weight,dominance,status,etc,factor in? What If I just to meet someone without all the b.s?
Thats not gona happen so start learning to play the game now...
TIPS:
-Make sure you look good (exercise eat right etc....)
-Have money ( dont need to be rich though it helps.. but dont be broke
-Find a place to approach women..
-Devize some efficient openers an closers..
-Make calls to set dates, not to chat (reduces BS)..
-Game no less that 3 women at a time to avoid oneitis
-If they flake ignore for 1 week.
-F close a soon as possible then let her do all the work if it is to progress to more.
You will meet mainly women who are hos and sluts so dont treat them too good or act like you wana marry them... just F and move till you meet miss right which may never happen... cause most women think they dont need a man...
I think,or I should say,it's always been this inner state. Somewhat outer,but more inner. I feel as though I just don't have the drive. That could be for many reasons. All I know is,I am not happy. Part of it is dating related. I have yet to overcome alot that's holding me back.
Another is I feel like I have been waisting alot of time. Months become years sort of thing. And not changing and doing what I want. I like sit here and hope. Should I just go out to a different bar everynight? I never pictured myself being this way when I was like 15 or 16. Yeah,I want the instant thing,I realize those who have it worked for it. I like can't even ask someone out. Alot of it is lack of a social circle as well. Alot of it is a feeling of inexperience. As in most guys started sooner than me,and know there way around,and that general expectation of taking the lead. I feel I lack alot of this. Most guy's hit that stride late teen's early 20's. I don't know if it's from looking at porn too much,or not being active.
Another is I feel like I have been waisting alot of time. Months become years sort of thing. And not changing and doing what I want. I like sit here and hope. Should I just go out to a different bar everynight? I never pictured myself being this way when I was like 15 or 16. Yeah,I want the instant thing,I realize those who have it worked for it. I like can't even ask someone out. Alot of it is lack of a social circle as well. Alot of it is a feeling of inexperience. As in most guys started sooner than me,and know there way around,and that general expectation of taking the lead. I feel I lack alot of this. Most guy's hit that stride late teen's early 20's. I don't know if it's from looking at porn too much,or not being active.