How do you even get in the friendzone in the first place

[Dhoulmagus]

I've been told to make friends with girls to get them to hook me up with their friends, but this seems impossible for me. I feel like for a girl to even give you the time of day in the first place, she has to have some attraction towards you. I am only close to two non family related females and one is my ex and the other one I am not attracted to. The others I have not met because they are flakes or just acquittances. I guess this could be my main issue with women lol.

 

[ohrein]

Making friends is really easy. It sounds like you have some confidence issues and probably some social issues too. Do you have interesting hobbies you can talk about? Do you go to places that suit your interests to meet people? Are you calm, funny and not creepy when out?

 

[devilkingx2]

I've been told to make friends with girls to get them to hook me up with their friends, but this seems impossible for me. I feel like for a girl to even give you the time of day in the first place, she has to have some attraction towards you. I am only close to two non family related females and one is my ex and the other one I am not attracted to. The others I have not met because they are flakes or just acquittances. I guess this could be my main issue with women lol.

i think i know what you mean, it seems like there are a lot of girls who don't really care about you unless they want the D. girls usually don't really make good friends

 

[Yewki]

How do you even get in the friendzone in the first place.

It's pretty simply actually. Be friendly with a girl, arrange to hang out, and never ever make a move.

One of the following will happen if you do this,
1) She was never interested -> Friendzone
2) She was initially interested then disqualified you -> Friendzone
3) She was initially interested and still is because she's desperate/lower quality -> S3x

 

[Dhoulmagus]

It's pretty simply actually. Be friendly with a girl, arrange to hang out, and never ever make a move.

One of the following will happen if you do this,
1) She was never interested -> Friendzone
2) She was initially interested then disqualified you -> Friendzone
3) She was initially interested and still is because she's desperate/lower quality -> S3x

It's harder enough to arrange a meetup even if she does have some sexual attraction for me, so how am I supposed to do it with zero.

 

[Yewki]

It's harder enough to arrange a meetup even if she does have some sexual attraction for me, so how am I supposed to do it with zero.

Well first of all you can't meet them through OLD sites or hookup apps, because when she friendzones you there... you're now just a f*cking weirdo if you continue contacting her.

You have to meet them under plutonic terms. The best way is through hobbies or interests you have. But in general, just be social and talk to everyone you see. You may have to expand your social activities. The girl you find doesn't have to be attractive either. Just find any semi interesting girl and act like a spineless b*tch who wants to be her friend.

 

[Atom Smasher]

The faster you can establish higher value that a woman the better in terms of attraction.

You're actually right about not giving you the time of day, even though you meant it as a metaphor. At least they will only do it reluctantly. Every now and then I will say, "Hey, what time is it?" as if I disapprove of her, or Hey, you, what time is it?", again with a hint of disdain.

This makes all the difference in the world. "Time of day" is a placeholder for anything. You need to establish that you are better than they, because this is the ONLY kind of man they can feel attraction for.

Strive to develop sexuality when dealing with women as opposed to comfort and rapport. If she feels affection for you, you're in the friend zone. If she feels excited by you, it's game on.