"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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how can I get this done

mackdaddy27

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This is in follow up to this girl from my last thread.
I want to have a relationship with her I think she does too.
But your hands are tied, you can't even ask for a relationship if you
haven't fccked her. I delayed too long and by the time I realized what to do I may have fallen into friends zone this is my fear and now I realize I need to finish this no matter what without any time delay.
AT first, I had no experience by the fourth meeting I've realized that I need to show her my alpha by the way I escalate, an alpha. I 've made out with her felt/kiss her everywhere with her clothes on, and even dry humped her,cuddled and even but the critical part is when I went to remove her pants I just pulled it really hard and it was coming off, but in the middle of the action , we just made eye contact, and I swear I read in her eyes " are you going to do it or not ? if you are , i m going to let you if you are man enough if you are confident enough to do it",She moved her hand to zip her pants, but mid way she starts to jolt away like it seemed if I had just confidently done it she would have gone along with it, But because I hesitated , her natural reaction kicked in and zipped her pants up and I didn't even try to stop her and
so it reflected back to her that I am not sure enough.
My fear is that I don't want to be thought of just as a friend that i m not worthy of a relationship.. it reflects badly on me if i m just a ' friend ' and all this time waisted. She calls me everynight for an hour. She calls me 'dude', or 'yo'.. I am thinking of calling her out and basically her, her " I am not your friend " , and whatever if I continue this relationship and i don't screw her, its definetly going to be too long, too . I think i m going to finally take her out one of these days, and goto a club and make a lot of social proof ahead of time, get her loosened up and this time not to back the f*** down...no matter what.

Basically , I want to know Have I fallen into friends zone?
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Mavrick

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You have this girl on a pedestal. Remember, girls are ugly and they stink. They where makeup, pretty clothes, and perfume to cover it all up. Change your thought process about this girl. Bring her down several notches.

You act like this girl is all there is out there. You're acting so desperate. Instead of worrying about this one girl, find several. It's the easiest way to stop acting desperate over one woman.
 
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