"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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How agressive are you after 1st date?

Bigsnake

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It seems most of the stuff I see is on when to call/make plans the first time after getting her number but not how often to call/talk/see each other after the 1st/2nd/etc. date.

In the past when I've had girls lose interest after going out a time or two I've felt it was because I wasn't doing enough.

I assume if they have high interest though, then it wouldn't matter if you setup a date the next day to meet them or 5 days later. Of course even with high interest if they didn't hear from you in 2 weeks, you'd probably lose them. Thoughts?

This seems to be a weak point for me that I need to fix, partially because I'm pretty busy and live a random life. Make it hard to know if I'll be busy three days from now or even two days from now to setup stuff.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Phyzzle

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Just see her twice a week. Can't go wrong with that.

You have to ask her out a little bit in advance. When she's cooking a pizza and her clothes are in the washer, it's just annoying to call and say "let's hang out 20 minutes from now."
 

Bigsnake

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Phyzzle said:
Just see her twice a week. Can't go wrong with that.

You have to ask her out a little bit in advance. When she's cooking a pizza and her clothes are in the washer, it's just annoying to call and say "let's hang out 20 minutes from now."
Twice a week sounds good. Gets hard to make time for multiple girls when you can only go out a few times a week.
 

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Just see her twice a week. Can't go wrong with that.

You have to ask her out a little bit in advance. When she's cooking a pizza and her clothes are in the washer, it's just annoying to call and say "let's hang out 20 minutes from now."
On the other note, if she's doing nothing like you might be, she'll be up to getting out of the house. (I do it all the time :D)
 

everywomanshero

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Bigsnake said:
It seems most of the stuff I see is on when to call/make plans the first time after getting her number but not how often to call/talk/see each other after the 1st/2nd/etc. date.

In the past when I've had girls lose interest after going out a time or two I've felt it was because I wasn't doing enough.

I assume if they have high interest though, then it wouldn't matter if you setup a date the next day to meet them or 5 days later. Of course even with high interest if they didn't hear from you in 2 weeks, you'd probably lose them. Thoughts?

This seems to be a weak point for me that I need to fix, partially because I'm pretty busy and live a random life. Make it hard to know if I'll be busy three days from now or even two days from now to setup stuff.

In my experience if something doesn't happen pretty fast, then it starts to become too much effort for too little return. It just depends on the person though. If you are having fun, then continue. If it's boring and all you really want is to pull some ass, then try to pull some ass and if it doesn't work after a few attempts then you might want to spend time on someone else unless you have some compelling reason to believe she is interested.

You should be initiating KINO at least sometime during the first meeting. Talking on the phone isn't a problem, I have had girls get so interested based on long phone convos that they asked me out instead of waiting for me to ask them.

Create a scnerio for them to be able to sleep with you. Have something to show them back at your place or "watch a movie". I've also had a lot of luck going back to their places and scoring on the 1st or second meeting.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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rocky_mtn

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I'm older, and now I don't care, I usually kiss a girl on the first date or the night that I meet her. Just a peck on the lips, but it clears up the idea of just being friends.

I don't need anymore friends, especially women that I'd rather be fcking
 
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