"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Franzino

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Hey guys, ive been lingering around putting off the time I could be bothered to get a membership here, just credit to all these guys who make this forum happen.

Anyways, im not here to complement, I have a situation. Recently me and my friends went and hit up an underage club, It was my first time, so I was a bit nervous, (plus you could class me as an AFC, although im trying my hardest to change that, and gradually its paying off), anyways, my plan ( know , i know, sticking to plans...) was to go in there and get a feel for the place, learn a bit about the atmosphere in there, see how people react, and what they let you do or not do. This turned out reasonably well from that perspective, but i got rejected many times, and the dance I got was double teaming with one of my mates, and then it turns out that I couldent loosen up enough, and was really standing out in the way that i was dancing. As you could imagine, the chick wasnt really getting into it, and i broke it off before i did anymore damage. Im hoping that next time there wont be any surprises and I can confidently take risks without too much room for morale damaging mistakes. But I still feel im missing something out, a few things In fact, so if anyone could help me with this, that would be awsome :)

Cheers DJ's

Franzino
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Plec07

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Give us a few more details on exactly what you did, then we can tell you what you didn't do ;)
 

WC2

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You have a better chance picking up advice for yourself. In other words, just observe what's going on.

It's your 1st time to a club; you're not going to catch on right away. Hell, you probably won't catch on your 10th time. Lay back, look at the men who are picking up women, observe how they command themselves.

Anyone can tell you the correct way to pickup women in a club in words, but it's learned much better through actual observation.
 

Lust

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You said it yourself, you hope to be more confident next time.

So many people post about the same thing, and it usually is a confidence thing.

Hell, if you are confident, you would convey it to the woman, through bodylanguage, verbally, or whatever. She'll just know.

And we all know how women dig confident guys.

Go out there, have a great time, and while you are at it, talk to a few hotties.

Thats the attitude you want, dont think about it too much. Don't always seek a result. Understand?

Is you loosen up, go there to have fun, and get confident enough to approach women, you will see a huge change very soon. Forget about all the tactics and stuff for now, your confidence is your main thing here. Work on that first.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Dude, you were trying to hard. And 20 drinks is a bit much, personally i'd go with 0, especially since you're trying to gain some perspective and keep your wits about you. Not gonna happen with 20 drinks in your system. I'm all for sober sarging, and if you can sarge sober, then sarging while drinking is shooting fish in a barrel. No sport at all.
 

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Thanks everyone, btw im 15 so this was an underage club, hence 20 drinks.. lol i dont drink any alchohol but spirits so, coke lemonade and water is just fine. :)

Ok, weel see how the next one goes, when it happens ill let you guys know.

Cheers all
 

Lust

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Franzino said:
Thanks everyone, btw im 15 so this was an underage club, hence 20 drinks.. lol i dont drink any alchohol but spirits so, coke lemonade and water is just fine. :)

Ok, weel see how the next one goes, when it happens ill let you guys know.

Cheers all
Nice to see there is another young gun in the business too.

I'm also 15, and hell, i have learnt alot in the last 3-4 months.
 

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In clubs girls will have the b*tch shields at the highest setting. You must look your best, and by best, it means better dressed than anyone there. That doesn't mean wear a tux, just wear a really nice shirt and classy pants (not jeans), clean polished shoes, nice belt, styled hair, big expensive watch, etc. Be comfortable and use situational openers on the girls.
 

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Shocker: Sounds about right, although i dont agree with the jeans thing, you can get some damn classy jeans, and in a dancing space where heaps of people are just a moving mass, who cares, dark jeans can look like anything.

The lust?: Likewise mate, looks like you've been around here a fair bit more than i have, at least had alot more suggestions, or questions for the DJ forum. I look foward to seeing how your doing in your quest for the Top DJ.

Ciao

Franzino
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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