"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Here's another reason to never take POF chicks seriously

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Don't know who did this experiment. And I've seen them done a few times by different dudes elsewhere with screen shots of the conversations on POF and OkCupid but this is just one of a few I've seen that show you should never take anyone or anything with chicks who use online "dating" to heart. I'll add more in this thread when I get the chance.

http://livinginthedeadcity.weebly.com/1/post/2012/05/plenty-of-fish-experiment.html
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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and the point of that "experiment" is... ?

That people find attractive members of the opposite sex... attractive?

That's a news flash!
 

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Zarky said:
and the point of that "experiment" is... ?

That people find attractive members of the opposite sex... attractive?

That's a news flash!

You're the exception to the rule Ms. Snarky. You seem to love following me around and haven't even seen my attractive pics. :up:
 

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i see these all the time and i feel like onducting one myself.

A) just to see it
b) i think it might do me some good to see it ie ( blow my reality of online dating)


of course i would be doing it just for fun... because i could chat to these girls and play with them.
 

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Packers2010 said:
i see these all the time and i feel like onducting one myself.

A) just to see it
b) i think it might do me some good to see it ie ( blow my reality of online dating)


of course i would be doing it just for fun... because i could chat to these girls and play with them.

Like I've said before. You'll be the "fly" in their inboxes as a male "model".

Just get a few pics of a random unknown one if you feel like testing it out to see with your own eyes.

Other than that you have to work out, dress your best and put up your absolute best pictures for the best "success" you can get on it.

It is what it is and and experiment like that shows 99.999% of women online are completely full of it and their profiles should be ignored.

They are responding to your pictures mostly.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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^^^^^that is what I'll take away from this

Some will say this shows that POF is only good for destroying your confidence, because only Brad Pitt has a chance blah blah blah.

Instead you should see that those chicks cant be taken seriously theyre NOT above you and you shouldnt let their actions towards you effect your perception of them -- trashy, beneath you, not worthy of anything meaningful

This does indeed show the true nature of chicks in online dating, but you have to realize that 99/100 guys that chicks see online arent this guy. In fact Id say 85%+ are in every way "equal" to you in the eyes of the online chick upon first glance. Which is why it IS important to stand out by sending an eye catching first message. having quality pics of yourself, and having a profile with some direction and personality. More important than anything perhaps, this thread shows exactly why you should invest as little time as possible into these shallow chicks prior to her making return contact with you (and IMO up until meeting in person)
 

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Naughty Ninja said:

It is what it is and and experiment like that shows 99.999% of women online are completely full of it and their profiles should be ignored.


Thats what I take from this

Some will say this only proves that online dating is useless unless your Brad Pitt, and only good for crushing your confidence.

I say just the opposite, it shows that online chicks arent to be taken seriously and you shouldnt be investing ANY time in them prior to actually meeting (or at the very least them making return contact online)

Most guys online arent THAT guy. Id say the vast, vast majority are just average guys not much different than me and you. Thats where the advantage of having some direction and online dating knowledge comes in. You can stand out above all those other average guys that have blank profiles, and send messages like "hey", or "nice tits!", by doing what they arent -- moving quick and giving off a vibe of being interesting, charming, blunt yet subtle, and someone with options who dictates the flow of the interactions
 

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They do this in real life, too. Nothing is different. They become super defensive and insultful if you reject their advances, won't allow them to CHEAT with you on their BF's, have ONS', or whatever. They'll say you're probably gay, not that good looking anyway / they didn't mean to say you were hot / they're not your type, criticize you constantly, etc.

It's the same as when they have the hots for you - then start insulting you when they either suspect their friends won't like you (due to not being "cool" or "exciting" enough), or if they actually ask for their opinions - which they do, with EVERYONE - and receive negative feedback. Now you're ugly, a loser, they don't like you, etc.

**** changes in an instant, and they always expect to get their way, and have the cream of the crop - mostly so they can show off. They'll even try to connive and manipulate people - only to piss and moan and insult when they can't use you for sex, get back at their BF, or whatever.

It's all the same.
 

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floydb25 said:
They do this in real life, too. Nothing is different. They become super defensive and insultful if you reject their advances, won't allow them to CHEAT with you on their BF's, have ONS', or whatever. They'll say you're probably gay, not that good looking anyway / they didn't mean to say you were hot / they're not your type, criticize you constantly, etc.

It's the same as when they have the hots for you - then start insulting you when they either suspect their friends won't like you (due to not being "cool" or "exciting" enough), or if they actually ask for their opinions - which they do, with EVERYONE - and receive negative feedback. Now you're ugly, a loser, they don't like you, etc.

**** changes in an instant, and they always expect to get their way, and have the cream of the crop - mostly so they can show off. They'll even try to connive and manipulate people - only to piss and moan and insult when they can't use you for sex, get back at their BF, or whatever.

It's all the same.
This is one of the reasons I have no problem with men who hit women in the face.

But as far as dating sites go... this is why these dumb wh0res are on dating sites to begin with. They all want Channing Tatum, plus all his money and they think they can pull him no matter how ugly, cross eyed or fat they are. I think the majority of women on dating sites are mentally ill.

Some of them will get a guy that looks like Ryan Reynolds to hump and dump them. After that.. they believe they ALWAYS have a chance with a guy like that...even if the hump and dump occurred when they were 22 and they are now 29.

In fact... many of them believe men select women the same way women select men. They believe they are MORE attractive now because they have "experience" and "a career" and "an education". As if that makes up for chin-fat and cellulite.:crackup: :crackup:

I know a girl like this from college who banged a high status guy in her prime as a 7.5. Now she is 29, getting fat and lost most of her charm.. I would rate her a 6.2 today and sinking fast. Can't seem to say no to the ice cream and pizza. Yet she is still chasing Ryan Reynolds.

I think women have a quarter-life-crisis around their late 20's when they just can't accept their declining market value. They refuse to accept the fact that only MEN have the luxury of "running the clock" in the dating world. They are in denial, deep denial and they don't wake up until their early to mid 30's (if ever). But by then they are bitter, desperate and act as if the world has victimized them.

Homeless cats will soon be a thing of the past the way things are going with the current generation of entitled western wh0res. The idea of marriage becomes more undesirable by the day.
 

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I think that works both ways, though, AND can be used in reverse. It's familarity with yourself, and how you view things as they once were - believing it's still prevalent today.

Back in the day, I was a fat, messy, ugly slob... During high school and prior. When I lost weight, and all these things - girls were showing interest constantly, but I still viewed myself as being that way. Didn't read any of the signals; was still unattractive and anti-social in my mind; girls just wanted to be friends; etc. And it became reality, because of how I acted - like an insecure, needy, overly friendly, painfully insecure nice guy.

Part of me knew girls were interested, but there was no confidence or assertiveness. That wasn't me... I was fat and unappealing. No one wanted to have sex with a fat slob... Thus, I rejected all sexual advances, and women in general. They didn't want to be more than friends, or get close to me. I don't attract women... Etc. As well, people didn't like me - as it was during school - - despite having tons of friends, making people laugh, being a social butterfly, etc.

Flash forward to when I started gaining weight again... Dressed like ****, never got a haircut or took care of myself, etc... I still viewed myself as being a stud / pretty boy who could attract women easily - because that's how it was at the time (even though at the time, I viewed myself as being fat.... Gah...) But I wasn't get any looks, no girls were flirting or wanting to talk for no reason, no sexual remarks, etc. I didn't realize the weight gain and slobbishness - just as the weight loss went unnoticed back then.

As well, I became an anti-social recluse, but still thought everyone liked me - even though, again, at the time, I thought no one did.

There's like a 50% delay between your mind and reality; past and present. Part of you KNOWS things are changing within you, and your surroundings, while the other half still views things as they once were, and keeps you stuck there. At the same time. Whatever. Confusing ****.

Just like people used to call me a nice guy, sweetheart, harmless, sensitive... That stuck with me... But now they're calling me an *******, uncaring, prideful, not nice at all, someone with no feelings, etc. Went through all those heartbreaks, dealings with *******s, getting bullied, etc, but didn't realize what I have become... I still have those views of being a nice guy, and the victim - literally as I'm being an *******.

Or moving to the rural south, but still living in the hostile northern city in my mind. Always expecting to be harassed, bullied, *******s everywhere, always on guard, not trusting anyone... Still playing those insults and remarks in my head, expecting to run into those people again... Etc. But it's not reality.

A lot of *****es and *****s are this way, as well. Getting burned by *******s, becoming *******s themselves, treating people like they are *******s - while still viewing themselves as the nice girl victims. Same thing. It's all in how they view themselves, as things were - not realizing that they changed, and things are a lot different now as a result of that.

This is why you don't sympathize with the damsel, put yourself in other people's shoes, take their side, believe what they claim about themselves, etc. How they view themselves is a lot different than how they actually are. Likewise for you...

So, yea... It's understandable, and normal - how those girls act now. Doesn't mean it's what they still are.

But I think realizing these kind of things can help you see the truth, and live in the present. Or maybe it's just maturity and knowledge. Whatever.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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incognito42 said:
Thats what I take from this

Some will say this only proves that online dating is useless unless your Brad Pitt, and only good for crushing your confidence.

I say just the opposite, it shows that online chicks arent to be taken seriously and you shouldnt be investing ANY time in them prior to actually meeting (or at the very least them making return contact online)

Most guys online arent THAT guy. Id say the vast, vast majority are just average guys not much different than me and you. Thats where the advantage of having some direction and online dating knowledge comes in. You can stand out above all those other average guys that have blank profiles, and send messages like "hey", or "nice tits!", by doing what they arent -- moving quick and giving off a vibe of being interesting, charming, blunt yet subtle, and someone with options who dictates the flow of the interactions

I never understood why dudes would get bvtthurt over online "dating" period. Unless they are thirsty and desperate as hell.

If dudes can't handle dealing with the cuckoo birds online where it's not even face to face "rejection" then they must really be an all star in real life situations. Granted real life chicks are usually much better than chicks who resort to online dating but if dudes get emotional about a friggin picture and words on a profile..nuff said.
 
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