"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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HELP! Ive fallen and i cant get up!

Spring

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Ok long story here...

Ive been reading and following this **** for a long time. Ive improved my dating and sex life tremendously over the past two years. Until recently i was untouchable. And although i think i already know the answers to my situation, i guess im just looking for reinforcement or another way.

Ok heres the deal:
Year ago met this amazing looking girl easy legitimate hb9. She had a boyfriend at the time but we hung out at a club one night (friend of a friend), danced alot, got a little physical, kissed, and drove home togethor laying in the back of the car of a friend. Good times, but the boyfriend thing was around so i left it at that and never followed through.

Two months ago i get a call from my friend, hb9 broke up with her boyfriend and is asking about me. So i give her a call we wind up hanging out, doing the dating thing for the past 2 months. Got a little serious towards the end of the two months, brought her to a work party, i would go out to dinner with her and her friends, etc. Met some of the fam, went away togethor for a weekend. She slept over all the time.

Ok, last friday i talk to her in the morning and she tells me shes going shopping shell call me later. Never get a call so i wind up calling her at ten to see what shes doing. Phone picks up, and then hangs up.. hear a guy.

Decide **** this ***** and dont call her anymore until today when i finally text her thinking bout you if you want to talk call me. Literally when i pressed send the phone rang. So she goes where you been i said where have you been? She said nowhere just chillin whatever.. i ask her bout hanging up, she says shed rather not talk about it. I said are you ****ing kidding me. She said its the reason why she got out of a relationship so she wouldnt have to deal with all the questions. She eventually explains to me she was hanging out with her x that night, didnt mean to hang up just meant to end the call. WOW!

She said shes sorry she still really likes me and wants to hang out but she just got out of relationship etc and i need to give her some room. She said she still wants to hang out unless i dont and that she didnt think that i had believed it to be that serious. She said that i dont need to explain to her when i hang out with other girls why should she have to explain to me.

Well i had a real attitude on the phone as we talked for a half hour and she said she didnt like my attititude. I told her that was too bad she was going to have to deal with it. She said she didnt think i was so sensitive and that i was a man and could handle it. I said thats really ****en funny, dont even try and give me that bull****.

She apologized over and over said she was sorry etc. She asked if i was mad, i said not mad just dissappointed, she said oh yeah right i can deal with dissapointed but not mad. She said yeah your dissapointed like your my dad. Again i told her to go **** herself and dont give me that ****.

I unfortunately said that i still would talk to her. But gave an attitude on the phone and eventually just gave her the cold should and told her i had to go. Which she was shocked i didnt want to talk things over. She said ok, fine then. I said yeah ill talk to you later bye.

Now I have a decision to make here.
(Keep in mind i really like this girl)

1.) Next.. never call her again.. dont pick up the phone.. peace
2.) Ignore for a while.. wait for her to beg.. if not next
3.) Hang out with her, force myself to not give a flying ****, have fun, bang other girls, leave it at that, never get caught giving a flying **** what she does, and wait for her to beg for more of my attention.
4.) Any other option???

Does anyone know of any other options to play this instead of just saying next.. even though i know perfectly well its exactly what i should do.. Do i have any other plays left? Or is the game over?

Wow the more i type this the more i realize how pathetic i am and how far i have come off track.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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HELP! Ive fallen and i cant get up!

Ok long story here...

Ive been reading and following this **** for a long time. Ive improved my dating and sex life tremendously over the past two years. Until recently i was untouchable. And although i think i already know the answers to my situation, i guess im just looking for reinforcement or another way.

Ok heres the deal:
Year ago met this amazing looking girl easy legitimate hb9. She had a boyfriend at the time but we hung out at a club one night (friend of a friend), danced alot, got a little physical, kissed, and drove home togethor laying in the back of the car of a friend. Good times, but the boyfriend thing was around so i left it at that and never followed through.

Two months ago i get a call from my friend, hb9 broke up with her boyfriend and is asking about me. So i give her a call we wind up hanging out, doing the dating thing for the past 2 months. Got a little serious towards the end of the two months, brought her to a work party, i would go out to dinner with her and her friends, etc. Met some of the fam, went away togethor for a weekend. She slept over all the time.

Ok, last friday i talk to her in the morning and she tells me shes going shopping shell call me later. Never get a call so i wind up calling her at ten to see what shes doing. Phone picks up, and then hangs up.. hear a guy.

Decide **** this ***** and dont call her anymore until today when i finally text her thinking bout you if you want to talk call me. Literally when i pressed send the phone rang. So she goes where you been i said where have you been? She said nowhere just chillin whatever.. i ask her bout hanging up, she says shed rather not talk about it. I said are you ****ing kidding me. She said its the reason why she got out of a relationship so she wouldnt have to deal with all the questions. She eventually explains to me she was hanging out with her x that night, didnt mean to hang up just meant to end the call. WOW!

She said shes sorry she still really likes me and wants to hang out but she just got out of relationship etc and i need to give her some room. She said she still wants to hang out unless i dont and that she didnt think that i had believed it to be that serious. She said that i dont need to explain to her when i hang out with other girls why should she have to explain to me.

Well i had a real attitude on the phone as we talked for a half hour and she said she didnt like my attititude. I told her that was too bad she was going to have to deal with it. She said she didnt think i was so sensitive and that i was a man and could handle it. I said thats really ****en funny, dont even try and give me that bull****.

She apologized over and over said she was sorry etc. She asked if i was mad, i said not mad just dissappointed, she said oh yeah right i can deal with dissapointed but not mad. She said yeah your dissapointed like your my dad. Again i told her to go **** herself and dont give me that ****.

I unfortunately said that i still would talk to her. But gave an attitude on the phone and eventually just gave her the cold should and told her i had to go. Which she was shocked i didnt want to talk things over. She said ok, fine then. I said yeah ill talk to you later bye.

Now I have a decision to make here.
(Keep in mind i really like this girl)

1.) Next.. never call her again.. dont pick up the phone.. peace
2.) Ignore for a while.. wait for her to beg.. if not next
3.) Hang out with her, force myself to not give a flying ****, have fun, bang other girls, leave it at that, never get caught giving a flying **** what she does, and wait for her to beg for more of my attention.
4.) Any other option???

Does anyone know of any other options to play this instead of just saying next.. even though i know perfectly well its exactly what i should do.. Do i have any other plays left? Or is the game over?

Wow the more i type this the more i realize how pathetic i am and how far i have come off track.
 

Spring

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Bump...

Someone please at least tell me how pathetic i am. Why did someone just copy and paste the message in its entirety above this one?
 
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