"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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HB thinks I cheated on her, I didn't

piday314

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This woman I've been gaming has been lied to by another girl, and she thinks I've cheated on her as a result. I didn't. She won't believe me no matter what, and she claims she doesn't want to speak to me again. I've been running a good frame, and don't want it to break over this. I'm not going to chase her just because she's having some major paranoia right now.

How would you proceed in this situation?

Sincerely,
Falsely Accused
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Htienvu

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Had this happening to me before, the girl was told by her best friend that I was up to something with another girl(which was a lie).

She said she couldn't trust me again, I was pissed at her for believing such bull. it ended!
 

Mantis Toboggan

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piday314 said:
This woman I've been gaming has been lied to by another girl, and she thinks I've cheated on her as a result. I didn't. She won't believe me no matter what, and she claims she doesn't want to speak to me again. I've been running a good frame, and don't want it to break over this. I'm not going to chase her just because she's having some major paranoia right now.

How would you proceed in this situation?

Sincerely,
Falsely Accused

Are you dating this woman? Like, are you having sex with her, etc?

I only ask because I remember your thread about some chick choosing an AFC over you and I'm wondering if this is the same girl...
 

NoCommitments

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This happened to me. I play in a a band & my trouble maker GF's friend told her I was banging a groupie of the band. although the groupie wanted me & said one night "If (gf name) wasn't here I would so give you a blo*job right now" it was a lie. I never banged her (I fingered her in a hotel room & my drummer banged her but thats another post lol)

So what did I do to my gf after her baby tantrum?
first I made my girl feel all warm & fuzzy by saying that she means the world to me & no one will ever come between us in a mature way.I never apologized or said I was wrong.
that didn't work! She continued her baby tirade so i froze her out completely! That night I ignored her. I dropped her off at home when she was supposed to sleep over. & the next day I disappeared...It was her punishment for bad behavior.
She wound up calling me like 20times, apologizing & saying that she was wrong not to accept my kindness & understanding

So my advice is to try the nice routine..BUT DONT BE A WIMP! Tell her you wouldnt do that to her because you respect her...but say it in a manly way..not like a needy baby! ok?

If that doesnt work & she treats you like a chump than f*ck her! freeze her out! & if she doesnt bite & doesnt come running back than you know youre better off not even bangin her cause shes selfish
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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f283000

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NoCommitments said:
So what did I do to my gf after her baby tantrum?
first I made my girl feel all warm & fuzzy by saying that she means the world to me & no one will ever come between us in a mature way.I never apologized or said I was wrong.
that didn't work! She continued her baby tirade so i froze her out completely! That night I ignored her. I dropped her off at home when she was supposed to sleep over. & the next day I disappeared...It was her punishment for bad behavior.
She wound up calling me like 20times, apologizing & saying that she was wrong not to accept my kindness & understanding

So my advice is to try the nice routine..BUT DONT BE A WIMP! Tell her you wouldnt do that to her because you respect her...but say it in a manly way..not like a needy baby! ok?
I like this.

Basically telling her "the truth" or your side of the story, making her feel all warm and fuzzy inside, then using NC till she begs for you to come back to her.

The key though is the No contact. That shows a woman you ain't putting up with her bull___ and that you're a man that is willing to walk out of her life at anytime. Giving a woman that feeling will keep her around you.
 
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