Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Have I got a chance here? Opinions needed

club_drunk

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I'm at a club with a chick friend last night. We end up meeting these two girls on the dance floor. I'm talking to them all night trying to get to know them a bit, but not really getting any vibes from them. I end up getting both their numbers coz I invited them to another club I go to, in a few nights. They go early, so I say bye and hope to see them in a few nights at the club.

Anyway, before they go they end up telling my female friend, they will only come down if she ends up going. I actually take that as an insult some what. These girls were sober all night and I thought that might be the reason for their apprehension, but now I'm thinking I haven't got a chance with either if they come out.

I just want opinions on what's the situation here? Have I got a chance? What would some of the experienced members here do in my situation? Should I pursue one of them, even if I don't see them in a few nights?

Also, I'm starting to think me being a bit drunk, and them being sober might have put them off. Maybe I came off the wrong way, and it might be a different story if they were drinking a bit. Because I had my sh!t on that night. I was getting good vibes from a lot of people in the club. A lot of people throwing smiles, getting handshakes from strangers, and other stuff.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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club_drunk

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Yeah, made me feel like a wierdo when I heard that. I thought I made a good impression.

I'm not gonna get hung up on it. Just thinking if I should even invite them out now. Another thing I noticed was they seemed a bit negative aswell. Some guys were trying to approach them and they got dirty looks from these girls, and even called one guy a loser after I asked them what they thought about him.
 

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club_drunk said:
Yeah, made me feel like a wierdo when I heard that. I thought I made a good impression.

I'm not gonna get hung up on it. Just thinking if I should even invite them out now. Another thing I noticed was they seemed a bit negative aswell. Some guys were trying to approach them and they got dirty looks from these girls, and even called one guy a loser after I asked them what they thought about him.
They are just not into you. They said they'd go only if your female friend, whatever, knowing that will most likely not happen. No big deal. Fvck Biggie. I bet if they hung out with your female friend, they wouldn't be acting all bitzhy with her.

That is how some/most attractive chicks act in a club setting. When they had their attitude and talking about the "loosers", you were playing right into their "Social Persona" and going a lont with their game.
 

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Here's my 2 cents:

It sounds to me like you really wanted something to happen with these girls and that you were trying to 'make a good impression'. Unfortunately, trying to 'make a good impression' is low status. They will have picked up on this and filed you away as a low status guy. Once you are labelled 'low status' there is nothing you can do to change that - unless, that is, they happen to bump into you one day with two models and a bottle of Cristal!

Anyway, if you see them again ignore them! The next time an opertunity like this comes to you (and it will) act unimpressed and disintersted - never try to 'make friends' or try to get 'in' with women.

Finally, you might want to try and cut out the booze. Being drunk is the best chick repellent there is! Seriously, women are completely and utterly repulsed by drunkenness. Maybe try going out sober and see how that goes. I swear women hold sobriety in very high esteem!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Thanks for the replies people. I'll take what you guys have said on board and hope to learn from my mistakes. Just a few things though. I wasn't really trying to impress them, I was just being talkative and friendly. I agree though about the impression comment. That seems to be a life rule aswell, but makes it worse when your trying get in with girls.

As for the drunkeness, I'm trying to cut back on having too much. I can usually reach a point where I loosen up enough and still keep my senses and that's a sweet spot for me. Maybe I was a bit over the top and said some things only a drunk might say.

I have noticed though that if a girl/s ends up dancing with my friend, there is no point in talking to them as they're just not interested in me.
 
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