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Got laid off and it sucks. I have another part time job but it is nowhere near enough to support my living. I am taknig this time to focus on my passion so itll eventually help make me money. Any recommendations to not lose hope? Applying to a **** load of places everyday.
 

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This is life, may this be of any help for you!


Once there was a Chinese farmer who worked his poor farm together with his son and their horse. When the horse ran off one day, neighbors came to say, “How unfortunate for you!” The farmer replied, “Maybe yes, maybe no.”

When the horse returned, followed by a herd of wild horses, the neighbors gathered around and exclaimed, “What good luck for you!” The farmer stayed calm and replied, “Maybe yes, maybe no.”

While trying to tame one of wild horses, the farmer’s son fell, and broke his leg. He had to rest up and couldn’t help with the farm chores. “How sad for you,” the neighbors cried. “Maybe yes, maybe no,” said the farmer.

Shortly thereafter, a neighboring army threatened the farmer’s village. All the young men in the village were drafted to fight the invaders. Many died. But the farmer’s son had been left out of the fighting because of his broken leg. People said to the farmer, “What a good thing your son couldn’t fight!” “Maybe yes, maybe no,” was all the farmer said.
 

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Got laid off and it sucks.
I have been laid off and it is a very unpleasant experience.

I also graduated in 2008 and entered the workforce at a time when no one was hiring due to the worst economic contraction since World War II.

It took me over a year to get hired when I graduated in 2008 and over 6 months in 2020 when I was a early pandemic layoff. I also got fired in 2013 from an inept organization and was re-employed in 4 months.

I have wisdom to share in relation to both my 2013 and 2020 dismissals.

The first thing that you must remember is that this layoff likely was not your fault. You probably did everything you could at your job, which was likely some bullcrap white collar job.

Right work, the white collar labor market resembles the late 2000s/early 2010s recessionary period. It's a bad market.

I share the link below with every laid off man. In 2011, Roosh wrote an article about being broke, unemployed, and living in his dad's basement at age 31 (nearly 32).


Layoffs hit men and women differently. Male SMV is affected by layoffs in most cases.

Male layoffs put a man at risk for getting dumped by his girlfriend/wife. Men who aren't in a relationship at the time of their layoff are likely to find it more difficult to find new women. Women don't find unemployed men attractive in most cases in new interactions. If a man is good looking and doesn't give off a relationship frame, then he might be able to get short term sex while unemployed. That was similar to the outcomes Roosh experienced in that article he wrote about getting laid while unemployed in the early 2010s.

When women get laid off, they don't tend to get dumped. It also would not affect their 1st and 2nd dates. Women's job prospects and income barely affect their sexual market values.

Are you eligible for unemployment benefits? It seems to vary a lot by state. I got 6 weeks of checks in Florida, but in Illinois it is 6 months.
Unemployment benefits do not cover much. While they are better than nothing, they don't make that much of a difference.

I think unemployment benefits need to be more substantial. During the pandemic, when laid off employees were getting that extra $600 per week from the federal government, unemployment benefits were actually reaching an acceptable level.

Any recommendations to not lose hope? Applying to a **** load of places everyday.
That's what everyone is doing right now.

Career advisors tell white collar workers to network and get jobs through their network.

It's good advice in theory that often falls flat in practice.

Many people get their jobs through random applications and interview processes.

How much parental emotional and financial support do you have?
 

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Got laid off and it sucks. I have another part time job but it is nowhere near enough to support my living. I am taknig this time to focus on my passion so itll eventually help make me money. Any recommendations to not lose hope? Applying to a **** load of places everyday.
It is impossible for an unemployed sub-Chad to get chicks.
 

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Got laid off and it sucks. I have another part time job but it is nowhere near enough to support my living. I am taknig this time to focus on my passion so itll eventually help make me money. Any recommendations to not lose hope? Applying to a **** load of places everyday.
What are you going to do about rent? Are you thinking about living in your car? :eek:
 

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Got laid off and it sucks. I have another part time job but it is nowhere near enough to support my living. I am taknig this time to focus on my passion so itll eventually help make me money. Any recommendations to not lose hope? Applying to a **** load of places everyday.
Financial times are getting harder. The economy is taking a **** and layoffs have been increasing year by year. It's gotten pretty bad now. It's rough, I get it. Got laid off in January and it took me so many interviews and hundreds of applications upon moving to a new state to get a really good job. Interviewers being unprofessional, late, ghosting, lying, feigning interest, even after great interviews on my part. I truly believe it's a prerequisite for most hiring managers to be a disgusting POS that treats people like cattle.

Was losing hope too and becoming bitter, frustrated, and depressed. Just keep applying. Hope it works out and you can tell everybody to fvck off
 

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That's great, now you can declare bankruptcy/default with your debts, collect EI, and have an extended vacation. That's probably what I would do if I faced the same thing. The biggest bonus is you have your time back and you can do anything with your time. You can go on memory lane, remember how life was like before you had that job, visit some nice locations.

I had to go on a short two day leave of absence to take care of my folks. I know I'm burning days by not working but you can't put a price on your peace of mind and recharging yourself.

1) More time to visit the Gym
2) More time to cold approach women
3) More time to enjoy the beautiful weather and exercise outdoors
4) More time to watch your favorite shows/movies
5) You can sue the company for wrongful dismissal if you didn't get your severance ... more time to start lawsuits!

Just think of all of the free time you have at your disposal. You can reclaim your soul lost to the daily grind and threadmill of work.

BTW, I know layoffs suck and can be rough mentally—just trying to keep it light and spin it positively like we usually do here.
 
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BTW, I know layoffs suck and can be rough mentally—just trying to keep it light and spin it positively like we usually do here.
I'm a huge proponent of looking on the bright side. But what you want to do is get your finances in order to the point where you don't have to work, but you're still secure. That can take some time and hard work though.
 

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It is impossible for an unemployed sub-Chad to get chicks.
I don't want to use the word impossible. In practice, it seems quite difficult.

There are too many men who tie their SMV to their employment. Ideally, a man should not tie his SMV to his employment or money status. @BPH has done well with this over time, as he has managed to put up a triple digit notch while living with his parents in his late 20s/early 30s. It is less common for men to do this. Men who have graduated school are interacting with working age women in a mating context will often will make money a key part of his SMV. Additionally, women tend to judge men 30+ for their money more often.

This tends to happen more with mid-tier beta males but can even happen with some alpha/sigma type males. When men have the "white collar employee" look, women then expect them to be employed and/or quite wealthy. It is an incongruity when a man who appears to look white collar lacks money due to lacking employment.

For betas in relationships, they are in a difficult spot. Women ditch beta males when they have no utility to them. Beta males are useless when unemployed.

Blue collar males often don't have their SMV tied as closely to their employment, so they can get away with being unemployed and can keep their women attracted. Of course, the types of women blue collar men date are different than the ones white collar men date. You're not that likely to see a female lawyer dating an HVAC repairman. A female marketing or HR professional is likely dating some white collar guy and not an auto mechanic. An auto mechanic is more likely to be dating a woman who works at Walgreens at the store level than a corporate Walgreens person.

For most men, getting new women or keeping their existing woman becomes more challenging when unemployed.

Even when a man has a strong net worth and can sustain himself for a while with his savings/net worth, women are skeptical. It's tough to be on a 1st date when unemployed (either app arranged or real life method arranged) and have the subject of employment come up. Telling a woman that you are unemployed but reasonably well off money wise usually doesn't fly well on a date.

While I have posted Roosh's "How to Get Laid While Unemployed" article from 2011 multiple times over the years (posted above in this thread), I have found it more difficult to apply in practice. One of my unemployment stints was during a global pandemic and there was a lot of fear/paranoia about going into public places indoors. The pandemic added a layer of complexity to trying to get laid while unemployed. I did also have another stint of unemployment in 2013 as I have mentioned before (4 months) and graduated in 2008 without employment. The 2008 and 2013 scenarios were better tests of the getting laid while unemployed idea.

Financial times are getting harder. The economy is taking a **** and layoffs have been increasing year by year. It's gotten pretty bad now. It's rough, I get it. Got laid off in January and it took me so many interviews and hundreds of applications upon moving to a new state to get a really good job.
This current job market is every bit as challenging as the job markets of the late 2000s/early 2010s.

Anyone who is unemployed and seeking white collar work is in a difficult place right now.

I think even non-white collar work is starting to get affected.

Interviewers being unprofessional, late, ghosting, lying, feigning interest, even after great interviews on my part. I truly believe it's a prerequisite for most hiring managers to be a disgusting POS that treats people like cattle.

Was losing hope too and becoming bitter, frustrated, and depressed. Just keep applying. Hope it works out and you can tell everybody to fvck off
Based on this quote, it seems like you are a white collar worker. You described what sounds like a white collar interviewing and job seeking experience.

I have friends/personal life acquaintances/LinkedIn connections that are out of work.

On LinkedIn right now, it's very common to see people posting about their layoffs and job seeking status.
 

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Got laid off and it sucks. I have another part time job but it is nowhere near enough to support my living. I am taknig this time to focus on my passion so itll eventually help make me money. Any recommendations to not lose hope? Applying to a **** load of places everyday.
I'm sorry to hear that bro
As a guy who has dealt with being laid off within the last decade I can tell you that I know it sucks losing your job and the anxiety and stress it causes.

The focus shouldn't be on women right now but on your mental health and most importantly, getting a new job/career. If I was you I would take one week off and just have fun. Hang out with friends, play video games, go out. Something that gets you out of the house while you're looking for jobs during the morning/day

Remember, tough times don't last forever, but tough people do!
 
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Op, at this point hope the house burns down. Unlike other situations, I do not see just letting time pass remedy the situation. There's going to be some pain and hardship involved to get over this.
 

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I don't want to use the word impossible. In practice, it seems quite difficult.

There are too many men who tie their SMV to their employment. Ideally, a man should not tie his SMV to his employment or money status. @BPH has done well with this over time, as he has managed to put up a triple digit notch while living with his parents in his late 20s/early 30s. It is less common for men to do this. Men who have graduated school are interacting with working age women in a mating context will often will make money a key part of his SMV. Additionally, women tend to judge men 30+ for their money more often.

This tends to happen more with mid-tier beta males but can even happen with some alpha/sigma type males. When men have the "white collar employee" look, women then expect them to be employed and/or quite wealthy. It is an incongruity when a man who appears to look white collar lacks money due to lacking employment.

For betas in relationships, they are in a difficult spot. Women ditch beta males when they have no utility to them. Beta males are useless when unemployed.

Blue collar males often don't have their SMV tied as closely to their employment, so they can get away with being unemployed and can keep their women attracted. Of course, the types of women blue collar men date are different than the ones white collar men date. You're not that likely to see a female lawyer dating an HVAC repairman. A female marketing or HR professional is likely dating some white collar guy and not an auto mechanic. An auto mechanic is more likely to be dating a woman who works at Walgreens at the store level than a corporate Walgreens person.

For most men, getting new women or keeping their existing woman becomes more challenging when unemployed.

Even when a man has a strong net worth and can sustain himself for a while with his savings/net worth, women are skeptical. It's tough to be on a 1st date when unemployed (either app arranged or real life method arranged) and have the subject of employment come up. Telling a woman that you are unemployed but reasonably well off money wise usually doesn't fly well on a date.

While I have posted Roosh's "How to Get Laid While Unemployed" article from 2011 multiple times over the years (posted above in this thread), I have found it more difficult to apply in practice. One of my unemployment stints was during a global pandemic and there was a lot of fear/paranoia about going into public places indoors. The pandemic added a layer of complexity to trying to get laid while unemployed. I did also have another stint of unemployment in 2013 as I have mentioned before (4 months) and graduated in 2008 without employment. The 2008 and 2013 scenarios were better tests of the getting laid while unemployed idea.



This current job market is every bit as challenging as the job markets of the late 2000s/early 2010s.

Anyone who is unemployed and seeking white collar work is in a difficult place right now.

I think even non-white collar work is starting to get affected.



Based on this quote, it seems like you are a white collar worker. You described what sounds like a white collar interviewing and job seeking experience.

I have friends/personal life acquaintances/LinkedIn connections that are out of work.

On LinkedIn right now, it's very common to see people posting about their layoffs and job seeking status.
Nah I work in a restaurant. It's probably rough for everyone now
 
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