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Got a coffee date (lame) .. need some suggestions on kino

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So this girl wants to meet up "for coffee or somethin". I offered one of my movie dates (which I have down to a tee) but she came back with some excuse and something like "I'm not the typical girly to go on a blind date". Even though we both know what we look like. Stupid bs, but that's ok.

I don't remember the last time I've been out on a coffee date. It seems very .. unsexy. I'm gonna do it anyway cause it'll be a good learning experience, but for anyone who's had success (success defined as a coffee date leading to something else leading to panties on the floor), you got any tips?

I have no problem talking to girls, it's just that I'm getting good at kino and a coffee date doesn't seem like a very kino-friendly scenario. I'm definitely gonna sit next to her rather than across from her so at least there's some contact. I dunno ... help me out fellas.
 

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Fvck it. I sent her an email back, I'm not gonna do a coffee date, that sounds boring. Told her just that. I'll see if she gets back to me, but I thought about it and I really can't see myself taking her home after a round of caffeine. It would be a waste of time. Hopefully we can still do the movie thing, I'm good at those. If not oh well. I've learned not to waste time on "maybe" girls.
 

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What's the difference between the two venues? Either you can sarge women or you can't. What's so hard about focusing only on one another without the distraction of a movie. Why do you think that talking to you in a coffee shop would be boring?
 

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Coffee date is great. If you ever go on one, make sure it is just you and her. It's a very comfortable setting for most girls on a first date. Once she gets comfortable with you, you can go to other places with her. I used to take my dates to a park, beach, lunch, or a movie afterwards if I like them. Also, you can end your date then and there if she is not your type. It goes both ways.

If you know the area, choose one that is not too crowded. I have 2 starbucks around my area that I used to go to. I knew exactly when it was busy and when it was too crowded.
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
What do you do on these movie dates that works so well?
Kino and tons of it. I have a system that's worked 95% of the time. Less talk, more action. It's almost always enough to get a girl back to my place after the flick is over.

Too late, already sent the email lol. I may give it a shot if the opportunity comes up again with another girl, but it seems to be on a similar level to a dinner date.

I find out if a girl is my type by how good she is in bed. I'm not looking for an LTR. 10-15 mins of talking is enough qualifying for me. I dunno, maybe I should have taken her up on it. No going back now though. Oh well.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
What's the difference between the two venues? Either you can sarge women or you can't. What's so hard about focusing only on one another without the distraction of a movie. Why do you think that talking to you in a coffee shop would be boring?
As per my last reply. KINO. HUGE difference.

You don't have to talk, you are right next to each other, no one is watching you - suggestion works way better in the dark.

I'm not saying talking would be boring, it just wouldn't be as sexual as actual kino escalation without the chatter.

Last 4 girls I took to movie dates I kissed before the previews were up and was rubbing the goods by the end. I just don't see the point of being all platonic when I can make it sexual almost right off the bat. I mean there's still some talking involved beforehand to get comfortable with each other (part of the system), but there has to be a way to progress.
 

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if you are looking for sex, then movie is your thing....
 

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Go to a park and play football. It's a ACTION date and a good way to use KINO.
 

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So she emailed me back not 3 hours later, I guess she still wants to get together and my withdrawl only increased her IL, but she's pushing for coffee. Something about recently moving here from another country so she's not comfortable driving yet.

I almost thought I was a bit harsh in the email, but I guess it just worked to my advantage.

Anyway I'm gonna take her up on it, see if I can get her to the movie anyway. I'll keep you posted on how it goes.
 

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You were a bit harsh, yet she was able to close you on her idea, her frame. She knew how against coffee you were, and how quickly you backpeddled. I doubt she will hold it against you, yet. Don't be surprised if she starts testing you by flaking.

You're good at those (movie date) with a particular kind of girl. If she's not too into you during the coffee date, I seriously doubt she'll want to get together for that. So work it good during coffee date then take her home, why take a detour? Be unique, interesting, and most of all, fascinating. I'm sure you got more going for yourself than just your muscles and your looks.

Some kino tips:

Comment on her hands, nails, forearms, rings, watch, etc. and use that as an excuse to start touching her. She will comply if she is interested, just like those girls went along with your "movie kino".

Tease her and tell her you need to read her palm first, before you agree to hang out with her on a lame coffee date. Begin the hand/forearm touching.

Dude, for you and I and a lot of men, the coffee house environment, ambiance might make no sense, yet women love the kind of vibe in that type of environment, and feel safer. You and I don't often experience what it is to be physically vulnerable in the presence of a much stronger stranger who can pose some kind of physical thread. Women do. Take advantage of this one. All The best.
 

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i gotta thank god for starbucks, seems like every girl ive ever been with fu*ckin loves it there.
 

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Gustav Yavo said:
i gotta thank god for starbucks, seems like every girl ive ever been with fu*ckin loves it there.
Exactly. You go to her turf. Make her confortable from the beginning. Make her feel like she has the "home field advantage", yet you engager her in your game, with your rules. Win win situation if you ask me.
 

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Well this girl is definitely different from the other ones I've met in terms of interests. She sent me an email back, gave me her number, and talked about going to this venue if I like electronic music and then "back to her home boy's house to spin some records". Whatever the fvck that means.

She seems like kind of a raver chick, I don't mind electronica, and it could be fun, but this is something I'm COMPLETELY unfamiliar with. Now I'm open to new experiences and trying new stuff, so I'm looking forward to it, but at the same time I'm here to get LAID.

I see what you're saying about her controlling the frame or whatever, perhaps she is. I don't want to do this back and forth crap though. Maybe I should just go and have fun and see what I can learn/accomplish in the process and stop thinking so hard.
 

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Maybe I should just go and have fun and see what I can learn/accomplish in the process and stop thinking so hard.
I think this is the right attitude. Good luck man, but if u can initiate kino in a movie theater, i dont think youll have any problems making moves at a music venue.

back to her home boy's house to spin some records
Bang her at her homeboys house!
 

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Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I'd question the 'homeboy's house' more than anything else. I could be wrong but it seems like she is avoiding alone time where you can make a move. She is definitely attracted thru the email with the # and meeting up I'd say tho, it just sounds like a chick not down for handjobs in the theater, lol. It's going against your apparent strength, but I'd go on the coffee date and build rapport so she feels more comfortable THEN make the move.
 
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