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Good 1st date idea?

trans_am17

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I was thinking about taking this girl out to An amusement park for the first date. I live a little more than 2 hours from Hershey Park,PA. Would this be a good date? Also I'll probably make this a double date if I go.
 

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Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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Amusement parks are excellent dates. We advise here that "action dates" are the best, and getting her on a rollercoaster is a rather good idea! My gf also says that rollercoasters make her feel horny so go for it:D! (With your bird that is, not mine)

Don't make it a double date, if I were you. Spend time with just you and her.

The distance is interesting. One one hand, your going out of your way for her - it's the equivilant of buying flowers or something on the first date - very AFC. On the other hand, it'll give you plenty of time to chat, and if you can make her contribute towards the entrance costs, food once you're in there, etc, then it'll seem more equal and shouldn't be a problem. Still, isn't there anything closer?
 

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yeah, amusment parks are excellant but i have to agree with aftershock...that is a bit out-of-the-way for a chick on a first date, but it should be fine

BTW im positive that their are some suggestions for dates in 'the complete HS works' and the DJ bible

:D
 

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Man, I'm kinda jealous. We hardly have any of that here. Amusement parks, ferris wheels, and cotton candy are kinda hard to come by in Lawton, Oklahoma. :/ But anyways, if you know her kinda well, I'd say go for it. But if it's a first date with someone you just kinda met and number closed, then I'd say it's kinda outta the way and might put you in the good ole' fashioned friend's zone. Take it from me, go somewhere nice and convenient for the first date, pick it up with some kino and awe her with your suaveness, and save the amusement parks until after you guys get to know her other a little better.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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