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OK, this is probably a dumb question, but what I'm wondering about is:

If you go out on a night on the town, and it's late (after 10:30), do people assume you're dressing up or trying to show off?


To be honest, I never do that. I dress exactly the same way when I go out as when I do normal day-to-day stuff. For what it's worth though, I probably do better than most people, which is truly a disturbing thought because I don't try to be formal at all, though I do my damnedest not to be sloppy. Also at places with dress codes I've never been challenged. I'm not even sure about what places have dress codes and what places don't.

I don't know if I will necessarily change my behavior if the answer is affirmative, but I'd like to know what I'm up against.
 

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I always dress well when I go out and honestly it is like showing off. Cloths are like a symbol of your status I always wear expensive shoes and cloths. Women appreciate it and they are more receptive to you if you dress well. Whenever I go out I am wearing:

- My $2,000 Rolex.
- Expensive shoes that are generally worth about $300+

The first thign a woman look at on a man are watch and shoes.

- Expensive shirt $250+

- Expensive shirt $300+

- Expensive belt +$100+ (Women notice belts)

It may seem crazily expensive but it is worth every penny. Number one is the comfort a $500 shirt feels like a second skin it is almost as if you are wearing nothing. The main benefit is women are a lot more receptive to a guy with a good fashion sense. Like I said cloths are like a status symbol.

I am not saying you cant get laid if you don't dress well but if you do dress well you get women turning their head to look at you and even approaching you. I cant remember how many times a women in clubs have approached me and said "I like your shoes" and went home with me that night.

If it is midday and I am going to the mall to do some shopping I would go in what I sleep in I don't care. Anyway about showing off its more how a person carries himself that indicates if he is showing off or not.
 

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Dress to kill

I always dress your best and make sure you don't look like everyone else. Why?

Because you can make more mistakes and some people would automatically want to know who you are because you look like a pretty cool dude.

Main focus on cloth
- Get good jeans (Those 30.00 jeans aren't going to cut it. "Levis" tend to be the best run for your money if you are low on cash. But just try on some high quality jeans that are 150-200 and just look at the cut and overall fit)
- Cloth is fitted (Loose cloth make you look sloppy the more fitted it is the more put together you look and the cleaner your outfit looks)
- Accesories are you're friend (Belts, wristbands, glasses, hats, etc whatever you want. It's makes you look so much more egdy)
- Experiment (Try different styles and see what works for you, then just come up with your own style. Window shopping and trying out stuff is great for this)
 

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It depends on where you are going... For example, if I'm going on a classy date or a really nice club then I will dress up. I usually shop at Express and buy a nice dress shirt with pants or slacks depending on the type of date. Never dress the same all the time. You have to switch things up and keep them stimulating! Read my post about the 8 Ways to get ready for a date with a hot girl!
 

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dressing up isnt bad, but showing off is an entire different level.. A casual suit can be dressing up. A Red suit, or really flashy thing may be showing off.

I just always look clean, have clothes that fit your body type.. like jeans that are cut to enhance your body, or shirts that will show off a characteristic about yourself, like creativity, a pensive look, a wild/party look, or any other thing..

Accessories are very important, but keep it themed with the rest, like if you have a shirt with a trace of red in it, a red armband, or something may fit.. You can always stick with basic black, white, gray colors that way it is less expensive on the accessories, but the accessories are always the first things noticed, With the proper accessories, you can show off in a subtle way, so people will think you are dressing for the occasion, but somehow stand out.
 

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Dude...

NickBe said:
I always dress well when I go out and honestly it is like showing off. Cloths are like a symbol of your status I always wear expensive shoes and cloths. Women appreciate it and they are more receptive to you if you dress well. Whenever I go out I am wearing:

- My $2,000 Rolex.
- Expensive shoes that are generally worth about $300+

The first thign a woman look at on a man are watch and shoes.

- Expensive shirt $250+

- Expensive shirt $300+

- Expensive belt +$100+ (Women notice belts)

It may seem crazily expensive but it is worth every penny. Number one is the comfort a $500 shirt feels like a second skin it is almost as if you are wearing nothing. The main benefit is women are a lot more receptive to a guy with a good fashion sense. Like I said cloths are like a status symbol.

I am not saying you cant get laid if you don't dress well but if you do dress well you get women turning their head to look at you and even approaching you. I cant remember how many times a women in clubs have approached me and said "I like your shoes" and went home with me that night.

If it is midday and I am going to the mall to do some shopping I would go in what I sleep in I don't care. Anyway about showing off its more how a person carries himself that indicates if he is showing off or not.
Your last sentence gives me hope... the rest makes me worry.

Ever heard the term "Golddigger?"

I strongly advice AGAINST any attempt to impress women with wealth.

The women I have known who have been turned on by a guys material possessions or bank accounts have been the WORST quality I have ever met.

Personally I have noticed no difference in the reaction of women between when I am dressed nice (ie after work when I am shaved and suited) or dressed in a ripped pair of jeans, a pair of chuck taylors, an old T and my natural BO. Maybe I do a little better if anything when I am all natural and hairy and smelly and masculine.

*** Jay Jay wonders off mumbling about confused metrosexuals under his breath***
 

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It is pretty easy to tell the difference between a genuinely interested woman and a goldigger and even if she is a goldigger I am going to sleep with her and never call her again anyway like I do with most women. If I do decide to actually keep seeing the girl I do not get manipulated into spending money on her. In fact aside from birthdays or valentines day I can not remember the last time I ever bought anything for a woman.
 

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Is that right?

I am tempted to say; "yeah you can tell a golddigger coz she comes onto you because you are wearing $3000 worth of clothes and accessories", but thats just a smart arse comment.

The rich guys I know all make an effort to actually dress down and live in terror of the old GD.

GD often get turned on by wealth. I mean literally and sinserely aroused by knowing you have cred. But that aint for you. And whats getting them hot is something they will be able to take off you.

Believe me, a lot of guys with money (but only half what they once had!) will tell you they aint easy to spot!

Its much better to learn what is on this site to be a lady killer.

Classy girls know that guys that do out dressed mega rich:

1. Lack confidence and are substituting with money/possessions and deep down have a bad attitude to women by thinking that they have souls of hors and will fall for a guy with dosh.

or.

2. Are just like type 1 but don't even have money and just try to give that impression.

Seriously, NickBe, I like your style, but be very weary about attracting women by flaunting wealth. I seriously think you'll be selling yourself short.

JJ
 

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NickBe said:
I always dress well when I go out and honestly it is like showing off. Cloths are like a symbol of your status I always wear expensive shoes and cloths. Women appreciate it and they are more receptive to you if you dress well. Whenever I go out I am wearing:

- My $2,000 Rolex.
- Expensive shoes that are generally worth about $300+

The first thign a woman look at on a man are watch and shoes.

- Expensive shirt $250+

- Expensive shirt $300+

- Expensive belt +$100+ (Women notice belts)

It may seem crazily expensive but it is worth every penny. Number one is the comfort a $500 shirt feels like a second skin it is almost as if you are wearing nothing. The main benefit is women are a lot more receptive to a guy with a good fashion sense. Like I said cloths are like a status symbol.

I am not saying you cant get laid if you don't dress well but if you do dress well you get women turning their head to look at you and even approaching you. I cant remember how many times a women in clubs have approached me and said "I like your shoes" and went home with me that night.

If it is midday and I am going to the mall to do some shopping I would go in what I sleep in I don't care. Anyway about showing off its more how a person carries himself that indicates if he is showing off or not.
Sure it might make u appear nice and powerful and stuff...but often times the guy dressing up is a wannabe and the guy wearin the tee and the sandals is a millionaire......just sayin.
like my dad. at work he wears expensive suits and stuff....but on weekends he wears cargo shorts, t shirts and sandals. he has a 25,000 dollar breitling, 2 rolexs worth over 10,000 a piece and an AP worth i dont even know how much and with his crappy clothes he always is wearing one of those. He then gets into his 75,000 dollar mercedes and drives off while the d-bag in the ****ty rolex (you) and wanna-be clothes gets into****ty 3 series or somethin actin like hot ****. Sorry but dress is only so important. My dad and all his friends make 7figures+ a year and by dress (besides watches) on a casual regular day, nonne would know until they got to their cars. Just my .02
 

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I came to the seduction community 5 years ago, even then I was getting laid occasionally but I wanted for lack of a better term my own harem of women. So I got involved in the seduction community because I wanted more and better looking women. I spent some time on this forum and others learned some general stuff. Then I left and decided to take the fundamentals of seduction and build my own unique game around it. By the time I was 18 I was still poor living at my parents house, I was sleeping with a new girl every month or so. The older I got the better my game got, I begun to get more and more women. So basically what I am trying to say is I got laid before I had money.

When I turned 20 I decided I needed to take care of the money part of my life, two years later I am rich or lets say well off. These days you are not rich until you are a millionaire a barrier I plan to cross by years end. So in the past 5 years I have slept with around 70 women give or take a few. Some when I was poor some when I made money.

I do not try to attract women by flaunting wealth I never mention to women I have money. I have always liked fashion and I like to dress well, there is a big difference between a $50 shirt and a $500 shirt. I do it for me not for women but I do notice that women are a lot more receptive to a guy that knows how to dress.

Bottom line is I use to get laid before I made money now I get laid just the same. I tend to go to high class clubs anyway so most of the women have more money than me.

Classy girls know that guys that do out dressed mega rich:

1. Lack confidence and are substituting with money/possessions and deep down have a bad attitude to women by thinking that they have souls of hors and will fall for a guy with dosh.

or.

2. Are just like type 1 but don't even have money and just try to give that impression.
Where do you get that from? that is ridiculous man you act as if to women guys who dress well are all social retards trying to make up for it by buying expensive cloths. I dress well because I appreciate good fashion, I look good in it and it’s comfortable. If women do have that misconception the second I approach them they lose it. It is as if saying that all women would think James Bond is a social retard because he dresses well even though he is one of the biggest sex symbols of our time.

I do not know where you get your information but dressing well does not suggest you lack confidence.

Also assuming all rich guys get laid because of their money is an opinion that stems from jealousy. So your rich friends dress down because they do not want to attract a goldigger, I rarely have the same woman around me for more than a week so even if I do run into a goldigger she wont be around for long.
 

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I always chuckle when I hear of someone spending enough money to feed a 3rd world village for a year on a rolex and suit just to impress women. If you really need it because of a lack of personality/looks/sense of style/etc then do what you must, but otherwise, what do you think you're really gaining from it? Essentially, the attention of women who are attracted to money. You do not need to dress in very expensive clothes to look good, to look stylish. All it does is scream "hey, I have lots of money!", and all it will get you is women who who are looking for men who advertise they have lots of money. I mean really, a multi-thousand dollar watch? What are you compensating for?

there is a big difference between a $50 shirt and a $500 shirt. I do it for me not for women
I knew someone would spew this, so let me be the first to call you out on it: bullshit. Just like the guys who eat nothing but cans of tuna, raw eggs and apples for three months to get washboard abs who "do it for themselves". Yeah, right. You're not fooling anyone.
 

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theguy351 said:
Sure it might make u appear nice and powerful and stuff...but often times the guy dressing up is a wannabe and the guy wearin the tee and the sandals is a millionaire......just sayin.
like my dad. at work he wears expensive suits and stuff....but on weekends he wears cargo shorts, t shirts and sandals. he has a 25,000 dollar breitling, 2 rolexs worth over 10,000 a piece and an AP worth i dont even know how much and with his crappy clothes he always is wearing one of those. He then gets into his 75,000 dollar mercedes and drives off while the d-bag in the ****ty rolex (you) and wanna-be clothes gets into****ty 3 series or somethin actin like hot ****. Sorry but dress is only so important. My dad and all his friends make 7figures+ a year and by dress (besides watches) on a casual regular day, nonne would know until they got to their cars. Just my .02
Did I say dress was the be all and end all? all I said was it makes women more receptive.

It is funny how you assume that I dress well only for show and that I drive a 3 series or some equally ****ty car? I have been a Mercedes man ever since my dad bought his first one. I have 4 Mercedes, one of them cost more than $75k the other three are just classic Mercs which I love more that the expensive one. To be fair I did not buy two of the Mercs, my dad left them to me. I also have a Aston Martin and I am organizing to buy a new Merc when I move to Europe.

As for my ****ty Rolex, I bought the thing for $2,000 but with all the add-ons I have had put on it is worth a lot more than that now. You can modify Rolex's ask your dad he should know about that...

Like I said at the start dressing well makes women more receptive to you. If you mix in good game and good looks you will not be able to keep the women away from you.
 

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Master Bates said:
I always chuckle when I hear of someone spending enough money to feed a 3rd world village for a year on a rolex and suit just to impress women. If you really need it because of a lack of personality/looks/sense of style/etc then do what you must, but otherwise, what do you think you're really gaining from it? Essentially, the attention of women who are attracted to money. You do not need to dress in very expensive clothes to look good, to look stylish. All it does is scream "hey, I have lots of money!", and all it will get you is women who who are looking for men who advertise they have lots of money. I mean really, a multi-thousand dollar watch? What are you compensating for?


I knew someone would spew this, so let me be the first to call you out on it: bullshit. Just like the guys who eat nothing but cans of tuna, raw eggs and apples for three months to get washboard abs who "do it for themselves". Yeah, right. You're not fooling anyone.
What I find funny is how men who can not make money try to make themselves feel better by assuming anybody who dresses well is socially inept and compensating for something. Do you think every person that wears a Rolex and expensive cloths is socially inept?

I thought on this forum people would not care since you are all meant to be guys who have or are trying to break away from that bull**** mold society has created for you. I was wrong, it seems when you make money you can only be friends with rich people. I always thought it was the rich people who did not accept the poor people but its the poor people who do not accept the rich people.

What is wrong with a expensive watch? it looks damn good better then some crappy Casio, Sekio or service station $20 bin watch. A watch is a status symbol and it looks good on me. My cloths look good on me and if you think you can look stylish in cheap cloths you are an idiot. There is a difference between nylon/cotton blend and pure Egyptian cotton, you can see the difference and feel the difference. There is a difference between ****ty 180 thread count bed sheets and 700 thread count bed sheets.

Instead of breaking from the pack and trying to become rich it is better to point and make fun of the rich people. What are you compensating for?
 

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Jay Jay said:
Your last sentence gives me hope... the rest makes me worry.

Ever heard the term "Golddigger?"

I strongly advice AGAINST any attempt to impress women with wealth.

The women I have known who have been turned on by a guys material possessions or bank accounts have been the WORST quality I have ever met.

Personally I have noticed no difference in the reaction of women between when I am dressed nice (ie after work when I am shaved and suited) or dressed in a ripped pair of jeans, a pair of chuck taylors, an old T and my natural BO. Maybe I do a little better if anything when I am all natural and hairy and smelly and masculine.

*** Jay Jay wonders off mumbling about confused metrosexuals under his breath***
so how much do you make a year? on average

500 dollars for a shirt, crikeys where do you shop?
 

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Kev07 said:
so how much do you make a year? on average

500 dollars for a shirt, crikeys where do you shop?
You quoted Jay Jay but I am going to assume that question was directed at me. I am not going to say how much I make but right now I am worth just under 7 figures. By years end I hope to break the 7 figure barrier and be a millionaire by 23. I don't know why I expected to hide my success, I am only successful in life because I am confident and good with women. I shop at designer stores actually these days most of my chopping is done online.

If I am going for something more casual I dress with these type of shirts and pants. Nobody can say that is showing off because unless you really know your fashion you cant tell the difference. I can tell the difference though because on me it is very comfortable and fits/looks better than a cheaper shirt. So Master Bates and Jay Jay there goes your theory about me trying to show off to get a womans attention, these cloths really look like any other cloths to the untrained eye.

http://www.raffaello-network.com/ra...692&prodrange=CoSTUME NATIONAL Mens Clothing

http://www.raffaello-network.com/ra...rangeid=807&prodrange=Dsquared2 Mens Clothing

http://www.raffaello-network.com/ra...php?rangeid=352&prodrange=Gucci Mens Clothing
 

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NickBe said:
Did I say dress was the be all and end all? all I said was it makes women more receptive.

It is funny how you assume that I dress well only for show and that I drive a 3 series or some equally ****ty car? I have been a Mercedes man ever since my dad bought his first one. I have 4 Mercedes, one of them cost more than $75k the other three are just classic Mercs which I love more that the expensive one. To be fair I did not buy two of the Mercs, my dad left them to me. I also have a Aston Martin and I am organizing to buy a new Merc when I move to Europe.

As for my ****ty Rolex, I bought the thing for $2,000 but with all the add-ons I have had put on it is worth a lot more than that now. You can modify Rolex's ask your dad he should know about that...

Like I said at the start dressing well makes women more receptive to you. If you mix in good game and good looks you will not be able to keep the women away from you.
If you really want to split hairs about vehicles that my dad owns you will lose. Just Saying
 

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Yeh I am 22 your dad is probably in his 40's or 50's. I do not care who has the better cars the point I am trying to get across is making assumptions is idiotic. You just draw illogical conclusions from nothing. Next time bide your time and your tongue.
 

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I just posted this in another thread:

I shop at goodwill, shave once a week (at the absolute most), forget to wear deodorant, gave up on underwear, am two months past due for a haircut, probably have a unibrow, and drive a ****ty car.

If you really want to split hairs about vehicles that my dad owns you will lose. Just Saying
Just saying that my dad drives a broke ass used cherokee and you guys are spoiled as fvck. If you guys learned anything on here (which you obviously haven't) it's that you can game without the bull5hit glitz and glamor.

NickBe you talk an enormous amount of 5hit on this board. You made up stats for std's, talk about how many girls you get, and in this thread bring up your ridiculously expensive wardrobe. I dont care about how you dress but can you back your success with women up? At this point I dont think your a troll I'm banking on it.
 

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Just saying that my dad drives a broke ass used cherokee and you guys are spoiled as fvck. If you guys learned anything on here (which you obviously haven't) it's that you can game without the bull5hit glitz and glamor.
I never said you need glitz and glamor for f*cks sake stop reading just what you want. I said women are more receptive to men who dress well I did not say you need to dress well to get laid.

As for my STD stats, I did not make them up I got them here

http://www.avert.org/stdstatisticsworldwide.htm

Read it for yourself, the only thing I mistook was that I was reading the stats on curable STD's not virals.

Read it North America 19 out of 1000 or 1.9%. Is that made up? did I just put that site up? it is the first website on google when you type in 'U.S STD STATS'

I brought up the expensive wardrobe because this thread was about how people dress.

How does one back-up his success with women? for ****s sake I come here to try and help some guys by giving good advice that has genuinely worked for me and as soon as people here I have money they *****ng turn on me. What the hell is wrong with you people? just because I had the balls to go out and make a success of myself you have a problem with that. How about instead of shopping at good will you go get out there and make some money. You cant tell me if you had money you would still shop at a charity store.
 

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Now don´t take the following personal NickBe:

To me you are just a mediocre braggard that screams in all of his posts "Hey, look what I´ve accomplished. I`m important...right?"
 
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