Girls WANT "The Right Man"

[TheException]

An old thread dug up by a new poster has raised a very fine teaching point that I would like to take the opportunity to explain.

Link: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=166062
TL;dr: OP met a girl at club. Had sex with her. Chased her and became needy. Woman loses attraction and uses "excuses" to get rid of OP.

Read the OP. Ill will quote some of the replies and share my point of view on them...because there is a ton of bad advice and/or people who lack experience of how things really work, dishing it out.

What I think it all comes down to is that she, not her family, can't see herself dating a black man, and she's trying to pass that off as "someone else wouldn't be happy with it".

Wrong. Race has NOTHING to do with this. Instead of "her not being able to date a black man" its more like "she cant date THIS(needy/insecure) black man".

The question is why consider dating someone you had sex with at a party 30 mins after knowing her.

There is a disturbing pattern of red pill men who shoot themselves in their own foot by "s1ut shaming". Dont get me wrong...if a girl sleeps with 8 different guys in a matter of a month....theres a good chance shes a s1ut. BUT to shame any ONS is counter-intuitive to what we should be seeking to accomplish. It would be a good thing if WOMEN slept with a guy on the first night if hes able to push the correct buttons.....and THATS what it comes down to.

Every girl would fvck an alpha male the first night . PERIOD.

Can't turn a hoe into a house wife. You found a jump off in the club and tried to wife her. How did you expect it to turn out? Sex makes her feel bad? probably because she's done this a lot...She probably never expected to talk to you again, assumed you were a player and it would just be some fun.

Again....more s1ut shaming. According to this theory, you would be going out to clubs/bars and WANTING TO NEVER HOOKUP because that would mean she is automatically a s1ut. Do you not see the error in this thinking?

Making a club fvck your girlfriend is just awkward. Avoid at all costs man.

I met my girlfriend at a bar....fvcked her the first night....and there is zero awkwardness. She is not a s1ut. I was simply able to push the right buttons and not act like every other chump guy out there. I repeat...GIRLS WILL SLEEP WITH THE RIGHT GUY ON THE FIRST NIGHT....doesnt make her a wh0re necessarily.

Sounds like you got played by a typical slut.

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She was just looking for a quick fling. The "dates" and "boyfriend-ly" stuff turned her off because she wasn't looking to go there (with you).

The "dates" didnt turn her off....how the OP acted turned her off. He called her multiple times, chased her, and even showed up at her house randomly to confront her. Thats turns off EVERY GIRL. It wasnt that she was looking for "sex only" but thats what it turns into when you act like a chump. She felt guilty about the guy OP turned out to be....she thought he was a man and not a chump. Again....every girl wants to get exclusive with an alpha man...and THIS IS MY BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH MEN CURRENTLY....we never see ourselves as the problem. Lot of replies in this thread telling OP hes alright and that she is just a s1ut....WHILE THE REAL PROBLEM IS OP AND HOW HE ACTED....not the girl. She responded exactly how I knew she would respond as I read the OP. If your not successful, take a damn look in the mirror. There is always room for improvement. A girl will MOVE MOUNTAINS FOR AN ALPHA MALE.

Why bother? With the way things are these days, chicks have become dudes, with some using guys for sex and then stopping contact.

Again...its not because girls are ONLY LOOKING FOR SEX....its because most men are chumps and end up not being worth more than sex for a couple weeks to a girl. If OP had acted like the prize and not chased....things would have been different.

“All women are fickle. Hoes are no different. Women function on 99.9% emotions. B*tches leave for the dumbest reasons or no reason at all. Least of all the reason you think it is. And I’ll tell you something else, if you know why the hoe left, you weren’t pimpin’. If a real pimp spots a problem he’s obligated to solve it. That’s why when a hoe leaves you’re not suppose to know why.”-Rosebudd the American Pimp by John D!ckson

A terrible and pathetic quote. Its assumes that women are "mysterious" and they do things based upon nothing and no one can figure women out.....NOTHING IS FARTHER FROM THE TRUTH. Everything women do...can be explained. They are not some great mystery. Thats just another form of putting them on a pedestal. They are human beings just like us men, and the guys who "get it" KNOW....that women are NOT mysterious and are actually easily explained.

If we never look past being butthurt at women for treating us bad in the past...we will never grow as a sex. Once you start living for YOURSELF and becoming a "real man" with real dreams....women will tackle each other just to have a shot with you. BUT if we continue to excuse behavior like OP and call anyone who speaks against it "white knights" as a way to discredit their advice...we will only see things get worse. Feminism will continue to rise and men acting like chumps will be the norm.

 

[HedoRick]

Some of us have very little spare time. We would rather spend it with QUALITY women. I am sorry but in my eyes, any woman that puts out after 30 minutes is not quality. I used to think so at one point in my life, but that's not the case anymore. It helps to categorize some into pump and dump and some into ltr. A guy who wants to make it work with a HUGE slut is a true CHUMP.

 

[JoeMarron]

I'm not going to argue about whether the chick is a slvt or not because it's irrelevant. The fact is that the dude fvcked up by being lame and needy and that's what the advice should have been focused on.

 

[In2theGame]

An old thread dug up by a new poster has raised a very fine teaching point that I would like to take the opportunity to explain.

Link: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=166062
TL;dr: OP met a girl at club. Had sex with her. Chased her and became needy. Woman loses attraction and uses "excuses" to get rid of OP.

Read the OP. Ill will quote some of the replies and share my point of view on them...because there is a ton of bad advice and/or people who lack experience of how things really work, dishing it out.


Wrong. Race has NOTHING to do with this. Instead of "her not being able to date a black man" its more like "she cant date THIS(needy/insecure) black man".


There is a disturbing pattern of red pill men who shoot themselves in their own foot by "s1ut shaming". Dont get me wrong...if a girl sleeps with 8 different guys in a matter of a month....theres a good chance shes a s1ut. BUT to shame any ONS is counter-intuitive to what we should be seeking to accomplish. It would be a good thing if WOMEN slept with a guy on the first night if hes able to push the correct buttons.....and THATS what it comes down to.

Every girl would fvck an alpha male the first night . PERIOD.


Again....more s1ut shaming. According to this theory, you would be going out to clubs/bars and WANTING TO NEVER HOOKUP because that would mean she is automatically a s1ut. Do you not see the error in this thinking?


I met my girlfriend at a bar....fvcked her the first night....and there is zero awkwardness. She is not a s1ut. I was simply able to push the right buttons and not act like every other chump guy out there. I repeat...GIRLS WILL SLEEP WITH THE RIGHT GUY ON THE FIRST NIGHT....doesnt make her a wh0re necessarily.


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The "dates" didnt turn her off....how the OP acted turned her off. He called her multiple times, chased her, and even showed up at her house randomly to confront her. Thats turns off EVERY GIRL. It wasnt that she was looking for "sex only" but thats what it turns into when you act like a chump. She felt guilty about the guy OP turned out to be....she thought he was a man and not a chump. Again....every girl wants to get exclusive with an alpha man...and THIS IS MY BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH MEN CURRENTLY....we never see ourselves as the problem. Lot of replies in this thread telling OP hes alright and that she is just a s1ut....WHILE THE REAL PROBLEM IS OP AND HOW HE ACTED....not the girl. She responded exactly how I knew she would respond as I read the OP. If your not successful, take a damn look in the mirror. There is always room for improvement. A girl will MOVE MOUNTAINS FOR AN ALPHA MALE.


Again...its not because girls are ONLY LOOKING FOR SEX....its because most men are chumps and end up not being worth more than sex for a couple weeks to a girl. If OP had acted like the prize and not chased....things would have been different.


A terrible and pathetic quote. Its assumes that women are "mysterious" and they do things based upon nothing and no one can figure women out.....NOTHING IS FARTHER FROM THE TRUTH. Everything women do...can be explained. They are not some great mystery. Thats just another form of putting them on a pedestal. They are human beings just like us men, and the guys who "get it" KNOW....that women are NOT mysterious and are actually easily explained.

If we never look past being butthurt at women for treating us bad in the past...we will never grow as a sex. Once you start living for YOURSELF and becoming a "real man" with real dreams....women will tackle each other just to have a shot with you. BUT if we continue to excuse behavior like OP and call anyone who speaks against it "white knights" as a way to discredit their advice...we will only see things get worse. Feminism will continue to rise and men acting like chumps will be the norm.

This was VERY correct. Pretty solid post.

 

[JoeMarron]

Have to disagree. You can game a slvt perfectly and she will still fvck other men. I'm not saying he played it right but you can run around in circles forever blaming yourself when you're involved with a slvt, easy to do.

I do agree that turning a slvt into an LTR is silly but it wasn't about the fact that she wanted to fvck other men. She told him she wasn't attracted to him anymore. If he played things right he would've at least had a willing fvck buddy. In that case her sluttiness is irrelevant.

 

[Solomon]

Stop reading this KBJ dribbel when OP was talking about shaming language and what not.

In this thread OP is trying to convince himself through projection that girls who give it up are wifey(girlfriend) material

mmmmhhh K

Can't take this post serious, this is what's wrong with this site the empasis on slaying poon by anymeans nescceary and the reason a lot of yall is a$$ out

Good luck OP on your captain-save-a-hoe goals of 2014

 

[Bokanovsky]

Have to disagree. You can game a slvt perfectly and she will still fvck other men.

True story. A slvt is like an unreliable car. You can do regular oil changes and preventative maintenance, have it inspected by your mechanic, fill it up with premium gas...and it'll still break down on you. It's just the nature of the beast.

 

[Trunks]

Well, yes and no. I struggle with this myself.... Time and time again, we know we're not supposed to actively chase the woman ... that it will turn her off. So how do you take charge without chasing? I personally hate this whole pretending not to care a.k.a. playing high school games. If you truly didn't care, you'd be banging w/e came your way.

 

[TheException]

But honestly, the rest of your post displays your inability to separate ONS from Relationship motives.

Sluts are a GREAT thing for players and men who want to get laid easy without any commitment. The prevalence of sluts are also are an AWFUL thing for Men with Family Values or for a stable society at large.

I see what your saying Danger and agree with the bolded above. The point I was trying to convey is that what constitutes a "s1ut" in my eyes is clearly not the same as some of the members who gave their reply. What we had was a woman who we know nothing about except that she went home with OP, had sex with him, then for a period of time dated him and had sex on one other occasion. I just dont see this as enough evidence to be throwing the word "s1ut" around. I just wanted to point to the fact that just because a women sleeps with a man on the first night....doesnt necessarily make her a s1ut.

Your post here is merely the pushing of your value system (which is predisposed towards being a player) onto those men whose value system is predisposed towards a relationship.

I wasnt attempting to push any value system. I am not predisposed towards being a player. I have a girlfriend and am very happy with her. I slept with her the first night....and that would make her a s1ut in a decent number of member's eyes. After being with her for 4 months, that is the complete opposite and I would have never found that out, had I labeled her a "s1ut" the first night and never let her work for my attention.

This reminds me of my mindset in college and especially immediately after college...sort of if you can't beat them, join em since so many women are partying all the time. Once you get out of college it becomes more obvious what kinds of women are quality and which ones are not.

I think its glaringly obvious even while IN COLLEGE to tell quality women from non quality.

Unfortunately he is pushing the worst of both worlds, saying that ONS women in clubs are wife material and shouldn't be assumed to be ho's.

I did no such thing. Read above what I said to Danger. I simply find it to be a "restriction" to one's game, if they fully judge a girl from one night. If that is the case....you would only have 2 options to place women into. ONS/fvck buddy or relationship. I think its entirely possible for a woman to work her way into a relationship from fvck buddy status. As a matter of fact...I treat ALL WOMEN AS FVCK BUDDIES. I never set out with the goal to "become exclusive" with a woman. I simply hang out with her, have sex with her, and get to know her. If and when she brings up going exclusive....thats when I consider whether she has the type of character I would look for in a girlfriend or not. Hope I cleared that up a bit for ya.

Stop reading this KBJ dribbel when OP was talking about shaming language and what not.

In this thread OP is trying to convince himself through projection that girls who give it up are wifey(girlfriend) material

mmmmhhh K

Can't take this post serious, this is what's wrong with this site the empasis on slaying poon by anymeans nescceary and the reason a lot of yall is a$$ out

Good luck OP on your captain-save-a-hoe goals of 2014

To waste or to not waste my time addressing this?

Conversation or Confrontation?

Lets try conversation first....

Im not attempting to convince myself, he11 even other members of anything. I spotted something I thought I could address for the betterment of certain members who can see my point of view. Its amazing to me how certain people's reading comprehension can be so low. Its almost as if you read one line....misunderstand it...then backwards rationalized everything I say, to yourself in order to just disagree with me. Lets recap:
-I am not out to "save h0es"
-I am not "convincing" anyone of anything
-I am not in favor of having sex by "any means necessary" although maybe you should since you make threads titled Halloween LR (Finnally a success story, I got my swagger back!!!). and write books professing all your lays for other people to read. If you are not getting sex enough, than by all means I understand your backwards rationalization of not "wanting to have sex by any means necessary". Its easy for a guy on a cold streak to say "I have standards" vs I guy who actually has girls left and right but can actually pick and choose.

Well maybe that was a little confrontation....but well deserved.

 

[Solomon]

Im not attempting to convince myself, he11 even other members of anything. I spotted something I thought I could address for the betterment of certain members who can see my point of view. Its amazing to me how certain people's reading comprehension can be so low. Its almost as if you read one line....misunderstand it...then backwards rationalized everything I say, to yourself in order to just disagree with me. Lets recap:
-I am not out to "save h0es"
-I am not "convincing" anyone of anything
-I am not in favor of having sex by "any means necessary" although maybe you should since you make threads titled Halloween LR (Finnally a success story, I got my swagger back!!!). and write books professing all your lays for other people to read. If you are not getting sex enough, than by all means I understand your backwards rationalization of not "wanting to have sex by any means necessary". Its easy for a guy on a cold streak to say "I have standards" vs I guy who actually has girls left and right but can actually pick and choose.

Well maybe that was a little confrontation....but well deserved.

mmh Interesting, so now writing field reports and lay reports means you going "backwards"

Times truly have changed on this forum, no need for me to rebuttal this it's obvious you already have made up your opinion so why bother?

I will say this I don't agree with you and you don't agree with me nor am I going to waste my time trying to get you to agree.

lets leave it at that!