"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Girl Won't Have Sex

LMFAO

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Third date:

Went to her place. Watched TV for an hour, holding hands and a bit of touching.

Then sort of escalated it with some light kissing, wasn't trying too hard. Then she jumped all over me, kissing off my face like she was going to eat me or something, touching up my d*ck. It was still slow as f*ck, like I've never encountered in my life before, and this took over an hour. She initially wouldn't take her jeans off, I was met with a shake of the head, I just laughed it off. Eventually managed to get her to take it off. She said we should go to her bedroom, so followed her there.

In bedroom took all her clothes off (her body is fine) and took mine off as well, kissed some more, fingered her and she was wet. She seemed really into it, but as before she wasn't going for the bj and was just about to get a condom to f*ck her but she said we're not going there and continued to just jerk me off over myself until finish (I ended up doing it myself since many girls don't know how to do it). She then said she wanted me to stay overnight with her. I told her I need to go back. She also asked me if I want to meet her the following night in the city, I said I'm going out with some friends. It's as if she's already trying to be my girlfriend, just without sex.

So that's the third date. For all dates combined spent about 6 hours kissing/making out and escalating things in slow motion.

It was hardly pleasurable at all, as you can probably tell. Spending time with someone and sexualising things for the first time is supposed to be fun and enjoyable, it's not supposed to be a fuc*ing chore. So yes I'm pretty fed up with it. [Another girl a month or so ago didn't want to have sex with me after two dates but at least was upfront with it - because she knew I had sex with her friend recently - which I happily accepted plus then gave a bj anyway and swallowed the lot.]

Even if a relationship were to progress this would always be in the back of my mind. It has so far progressed further on each date, but if she can't even give a bj, then really is it worth investing any more time in this? What I'm most p*ssed about though is that she just appears to be leading me on and in the end can't seem to do more than a simple jerk.

So do I just get rid of her, or just go no contact and appear busy the whole time and make her put more into it? Either way will spin more p*ssies regardless.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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mr. kennedy

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^ At least you know you doesn't give herself easily, which means it will take a lot for her to cheat on you.
 

way2smart

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mr. kennedy said:
^ At least you know you doesn't give herself easily, which means it will take a lot for her to cheat on you.
I don't buy this. Even a cheater can intentionally do this, to show that they are hard to get, but then start banging every d*ck she can get on the side.

It appears she knows her game well. From what you are saying she is definitely interested and just wants to play hard to get. It's up to you if you want to put up with this sh*t.

Either way I would back off. She would get the message when you back up.
 

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I backed off. In fact she invited me to some other thing which she had a spare ticket for in the last minute, I said I was busy and couldn't go. She was still texting me the next day (she initiated) as normal.

Yesterday we didn't text at all. So today I asked her what she's up to to re-initiate contact and she's gone ghost.

The games women play :rolleyes:
 

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Got a feeling you haven't heard the last from this girl.

If a girl lets you get her naked, she will usually let you fvck her eventually. That doesn't mean it's worth it though
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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jimmy18 said:
Got a feeling you haven't heard the last from this girl.

If a girl lets you get her naked, she will usually let you fvck her eventually. That doesn't mean it's worth it though
I got a feeling he's someone she likes to tease. A celeb would strike her fro trying that bullshyt.

She's in control. Women are always in control of when sex happens. She just wants to be friends. I'd eject.
 

Octogonal

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Mauser96 said:
I disagree.( IF she has interest) Right now she is controlling the pace, and has total control via sex.

Take that away, and she starts to wonder why. The most likely reason, in her mind? Another w0man - losing interest.

And either way - he withdraws escalation/interest. She can either chase or he realizes Low Interest and dumps her. Win-Win
It isn't a win when he doesn't get laid after putting in the effort. I don't see her having any interest from what he has described.
 
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