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Ok I been dating this girl a few months ago but somewhere down the line it went downhill. Im guessing it becuase she found out I was dating others girl too(we wasn't even serious) or that I didn't have sex with her when i had the chance (im still a virgin and I dont know how to make the right moves to lead to sex). Anyway, she LJBF me for some stupid reason so i said fuk it. We still talk online a few times but not as long and I haven sent her for a while. I moved on and start dating other girls and thought that was just a learning experince i learned from her.

Anyway, she IM me the other day and wonder why guys and girls cant be friends and why we haven't been hanging out. I dont understand why she would still want to hangout with me after she LJBF. I dont think i can be her friend and hangout with her anymore. Because I think i might try to attempt to get back with her and I think it would be a waste of time. Should I even attempt trying to be friends with a girl after I failed trying to game her?
 

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I found this to be an interesting read:

http://karpus.wordpress.com/2006/05/07/lets-just-be-friends/

I personally think you should stay as far away from being friends as possible. If she comes back and asks you out for a date, then you can reconsider. For now as long as she uses the "friendship" pretense, stay the hell away.

Guys and girls were never meant to be just friends. :nono: ;)
 

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Every girl has her "Gay guy best friend". This is the guy she can be all girly with. Talk about random **** that no one cares about......

Heh....you could plat each others hair?

Stay away from a LJBF. If she doesnt get why just say because i liked you and it has to be this way. That will stop her asking.
 

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Excellent article, being a reformed "friend" i would just like to say i am incredibly interested in this subject, particularly making sure people do not fall into this trap.

try looking at this thread:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=103768

and this one

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=92191

and this one:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=102434

it would seem that everyone has been in this position before or newbies are more than likley to be in this position, i think that everybody on this site shoul actually make an effort with this subject, and it should be heavily discussed, because as somebody has already mentioned, beiong friends with a chick can be a slow and painful torture.

Please for the sake of peoples sanity can people be aware of this potentially heart breaking situation.
 

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LJBF yeah whateva

Yo Dragon!,
Now this I speak of my very own personal experience. I got LJBF with a girl I dated, we had an Undefined relationship as she called it and it took me 4 years to detach and clear myself from her. Just recently I left her.

Not worthy dude, when a girl who once dated you LJBF you is because she wants all the goodies from your relationship with her ei: company, meals, fun, trips, emotional support, entertainment etc, but they don't consider you valuable enough as for her to reciprocate. Basically you are the surrogated BF until someone comes along.

-You can only be friends with women you have absolutely no interest on.
-You can never go back to frienship once you cross that boundary.
-You can never be have a true unbiased honest frienship with someone you have priorly dated, becuase almost all the time one of you guys have not completely moved on.

This is a good time to learn one of the most difficult lessons (which of course I myself have not learned yet) and that is to Learn to walk away and Move-on, hard may be, but we all need to learn this at one point, and better sooner than later.

Cheers brother!
 

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I know people are going to attack me for this... but I really think it's OK to have a female friend that you're not dating. I don't understand why everyone on this site is so ready to say that half the Earth's population is good only for sex.

Please. I have had LOTS of fun hanging around girls that were just my "friends"... EVEN ones I was attracted to. Sure, when you're attracted to them it's a bit of a distraction, but really if you have any nuts at all this shouldn't be a big problem.

The only time it's a problem is if you're risking oneitis. If you're infatuated with this "friend" so much that it's distracting you from the rest of your life, than you need to separate long enough to get over the infatuation.

Hanging around with a girl just as a friend is very useful, so I've found. It helps you figure out women, and they always have friends.

This whole "men and women weren't meant to be friends" crap is just that, crap. Who ever said this? Is it in the bible? Is it biological? Yeesh. Stop being so dogmatic.
 

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realsmoothie said:
I know people are going to attack me for this... but I really think it's OK to have a female friend that you're not dating. I don't understand why everyone on this site is so ready to say that half the Earth's population is good only for sex.

Please. I have had LOTS of fun hanging around girls that were just my "friends"... EVEN ones I was attracted to. Sure, when you're attracted to them it's a bit of a distraction, but really if you have any nuts at all this shouldn't be a big problem.

The only time it's a problem is if you're risking oneitis. If you're infatuated with this "friend" so much that it's distracting you from the rest of your life, than you need to separate long enough to get over the infatuation.

Hanging around with a girl just as a friend is very useful, so I've found. It helps you figure out women, and they always have friends.

This whole "men and women weren't meant to be friends" crap is just that, crap. Who ever said this? Is it in the bible? Is it biological? Yeesh. Stop being so dogmatic.
See talking to people who can't relate is pointless. You sound like you're in a happy relationship. If you're not ... then you've never had a ljbf episode, never had oneitis ... OR ... all you're female "friends" are ugly. Because if I'm a single guy, hanging out with a friend I'm attracted to and she wants none of that, then that leaves me in quite a poor situation wouldn't you say?

Plus what can you do with girls but be in relationships? Can you play tackle football with them? Can you have drinking games together? Can you sit on your ass and just watch hockey for 3 hours?

If you've answered yes to anyone of those, then I'm sorry but I cannot relate to the type of girls that you like.
 

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If you want a girlfriend who spills out all her feelings to you and gives you no chance of any sex then sure have fun being her friend.

Do what you want but don't expect sex by being her friend.
 

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BlackDragon said:
Ok I been dating this girl a few months ago but somewhere down the line it went downhill. Im guessing it becuase she found out I was dating others girl too(we wasn't even serious) or that I didn't have sex with her when i had the chance (im still a virgin and I dont know how to make the right moves to lead to sex). Anyway, she LJBF me for some stupid reason so i said fuk it. We still talk online a few times but not as long and I haven sent her for a while. I moved on and start dating other girls and thought that was just a learning experince i learned from her.

Anyway, she IM me the other day and wonder why guys and girls cant be friends and why we haven't been hanging out. I dont understand why she would still want to hangout with me after she LJBF. I dont think i can be her friend and hangout with her anymore. Because I think i might try to attempt to get back with her and I think it would be a waste of time. Should I even attempt trying to be friends with a girl after I failed trying to game her?
Go for it:yes: She's giving you another shot or... who knows? Sounds like you want it so go for it:yes:
 

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realsmoothie said:
Hanging around with a girl just as a friend is very useful, so I've found. It helps you figure out women, and they always have friends.
wrong! Wrong! wrong!

Girls behave completley different around guys, especially their "friends" so yes you may figure out what women want in a friend i.e you. But not all women are the same, you might figure out what your friend wants, but by hangin round with these chicks your just gunna start acting like one.

The only way hanging round chicks is useful is if you see them as "aquaintances that make you look good" or "a potential ****."

What girls say and what they think are entirley unrelated. Dont get me wrong, im not saying avoid talking to women at all costs, not at all, just if you realise you have taken the relationship as far as it can go without any activity, then you should use these girls as social proof, ie kino, saying hi to when you talking to other girls, hanging out with female friends hoping to get laid is what we do in the 9th grade or when your 14 or whatever, it doesnt work like that anymore.

Even if you consider them as a friend, refer to them as aquaintances, because that way, theres not as much pressure involved, and on the off chance one of these aquaintances does want to put out, it doesnt matter because they were just an aquaintance. its not that they arnt your friend, you just dont want to be in the category, so im saying that we as dj's or whatever should percieve the female"friends" thing differently, yes talk to them, yes flirt, yes C&F them but for gods sakes dont percieve them as your friend.

anyways more on this later, im off out.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Hang-out with her, and use her as social proof. Just keep in mind you really sarging when you are going out with her in an indirect way.
 

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Having girls as friends can have its perks. For example, have her as a wing when going out. It'll make the other girls alittle jelious, they might think she's competition or sometihng

If you are gonna be friends with her, you gotta treat her like your guy friends, and you guys should do guy stuff, like watch sports and play video games. If your not having a good time doing these things with her, forget it.
 

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Theres no such thing as a wingwomen, its called a wingman for a reason.

Girls will most likely sabatoge your efforts when you try pickups with her around. Even if you are in the friend zone, women work emotionally and it will bother her on some level.


Watch "When Harry Met Sally" as to why men and women can not be friends.
 

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Buck Rogers said:
wrong! Wrong! wrong!

Girls behave completley different around guys, especially their "friends" so yes you may figure out what women want in a friend i.e you. But not all women are the same, you might figure out what your friend wants, but by hangin round with these chicks your just gunna start acting like one.

The only way hanging round chicks is useful is if you see them as "aquaintances that make you look good" or "a potential ****."

What girls say and what they think are entirley unrelated. Dont get me wrong, im not saying avoid talking to women at all costs, not at all, just if you realise you have taken the relationship as far as it can go without any activity, then you should use these girls as social proof, ie kino, saying hi to when you talking to other girls, hanging out with female friends hoping to get laid is what we do in the 9th grade or when your 14 or whatever, it doesnt work like that anymore.

Even if you consider them as a friend, refer to them as aquaintances, because that way, theres not as much pressure involved, and on the off chance one of these aquaintances does want to put out, it doesnt matter because they were just an aquaintance. its not that they arnt your friend, you just dont want to be in the category, so im saying that we as dj's or whatever should percieve the female"friends" thing differently, yes talk to them, yes flirt, yes C&F them but for gods sakes dont percieve them as your friend.

anyways more on this later, im off out.

I really don't see anything in here that contradicts what I said. Why DON'T I want to be friends with a woman? Are they not human beings, with interests and beliefs and opinions?

Grow up. The whole world is not a game in which your sole existence is to get laid. If you can't handle being a friend with a girl without your schlong constantly getting in the way, you're not much of a DJ anyhow.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Arsinel said:
What the fucl{ is LJBF?!?!
An acronymn for the wonderful "Lets just be friends" speech. The goal of every DJ.
 

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protienpowder said:
If you are gonna be friends with her, you gotta treat her like your guy friends, and you guys should do guy stuff, like watch sports and play video games. If your not having a good time doing these things with her, forget it.
i see what your saying here, but do think that thats gunna work?

Scenario: your on the couch with a friend, drinking beers, watching sports, playing video games, yea? Now if this is a guy, you will start shouting at the tv/ calling him names cuz he's beating you at your video game whatever. Youll talk about banging chicks, youll talk about drinking more beer, eventually youll decide to go out on the pull or whatever.

Now imagine this: Your on the couch playing video games watching sports with a "girl friend" you have a few beers, watching the game, you turn and look at this attractive girl sittin next you, now its fight or flight: theres only really two things that are gunna happen here:

1. Your staring at your hot friend, you're right next to her on the couch your heart beats a little faster, that devil on your shoulder says "go on, whats the worse that can happen" so you make a pass.....BOOM! your friend kisses you back and you start making mad passionate love on the couch (because its obviously what you both want.) If this happens then it jusgt proves the theory- shes not yiour friend, all along youve posed as a friend the both of you have, but your really friends, and youve wasted the last month or whatever trying to bang this chick, when lets face it you could of done it ages ago. Which proves why being friends is a waste of time.

Now the reality:

2. Your staring at your hot friend, you're right next to her on the couch your heart beats a little faster, that devil on your shoulder says "go on, whats the worse that can happen" But then she starts talking about guys she likes, and eventually she says something like " I want my next boyfriend to be more like you" or some **** like that. But you see that as a green light.... so you make the pass....."what the **** are you doing, i thought we were friends" thats whats she says!

oh dear, shes given you the wrong signals you say something like: " but you just said" and before you get a chance to say anythign else, she says some bollocks like: " i thought you understood me, i thought you trusted me when all along you just wanted me for one thing" and then when you here these words: "Your my best friend/ I love you like a brother/ I thought i could trust you" or possibly, lets face it this icould be the worst one:

"YOUR JUST LIKE THE OTHER GUYS"

that will birng you down to earth with a bang. your "friendship" is over, youve lost her as a friend, all hope of anything else is gone. Ok so maybe your not foing to try and jump your friend straight away, but inevitably that scenario is going to happen.

Keep females for clubs, kino, social proof flirting practice, dont get to involved as their friend.

I really believe its no good having female friends, aquaintances yes, friends no!please feel free to counter argue with me or raise some other pointseven disagree.
 

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Yeah you guys are right. I end up hanging with her this weekend with my friend and 2 of her friends. I kind of felt akward becuase I didn't know how to treat her becuase i still liked her. Her friends were cute but i was having oneits on her. My friend end up hooking up with one of her friends and I was left alone. After the club I used to stay at her place in her bed with her but this time I was sleeping on her couch. Sucks to this ****, I dont want to be her friend anymore. What i hate even more was that she started to talk other guys she been dating after me and how much guys suck. I can't belive she said that becuase im a guy myself. Im just going to move on to the others girls i been gaming on. Maybe girls can be friends with guys, but guys can not be friends with girls.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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