"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Girl thinks I'm quiet

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Several girls I've met have commented that I'm "quiet". Should I be concerned by these comments - do women consider this a character flaw?

My honest explanation is just that I dont really like talking about absolute BS, small talk just doesn't appeal to me. If theres a half-decent discussion going on I am always there and contribute significantly

If you're out on a date and a girl asked you why you're so quiet what would you say?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Originally posted by RIDER
Several girls I've met have commented that I'm "quiet". Should I be concerned by these comments - do women consider this a character flaw?

My honest explanation is just that I dont really like talking about absolute BS, small talk just doesn't appeal to me. If theres a half-decent discussion going on I am always there and contribute significantly

If you're out on a date and a girl asked you why you're so quiet what would you say?



That's not exactly a good thing, if several girls told you, you're quiet. In my opinion they're trying to open up to you and get you to talk but you don't want to. Pay attention. Listen to her, you don't have to talk about the sun stars and moon. Believe it or not, most of the time the girls will do the talking, all you do is ask questions and listen. If small talk doesn't appeal to you... suck it up cause you're gonna have to do it no matter what. Think of it this way, you're not gonna find a girl where EVERYTHING you two talk about is going to be decent. That's the way females are, and it'll even go as far as you two arguing about what color the sky is one day or somethin similiar.


Open up, talk about BS, besides it's just what us guys do anyway, we shoot the ****. If i was on a date and a girl asked me why i was so quiet, i'd tell her, "i dont like talking about bs, small talk doesn't appeal to me, and i only contribute to a decent discussion" -- sarcasm but you see my point, that'll turn a girl off in a heartbeat. The point is, she shouldn't even be askin you that :) Good luck...



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I get the same thing and like you I'm not that good with BS talk. I realize though you you do have to suck it up and learn how to, its just a social skill needed if you want success.
 

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Thanks guys

Any tips or links you guys can recommend to me? It probably doesn't seem like a big deal to most of you but I really need help with this.

In my last situation with a girl (first date) I kept the convo around her but she kept expecting me to reciprocate with long stories about myself - I can't talk about myself so I gave out short answers which she then turned around and said makes me "quiet".

You think I should just rehearse some long-winded stories and bring them up next time? The problem isn't with conversation in general - its specific to talking about ME. She keeps digging and I can't think of what to say
 

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you dont need to 'rehearse' stories about yourself
if she specifically asks you about yourself, then you have to break the rule (that you focus on her)... because look at it this way: she's really interested in you and she wants information about you to decide how much she likes you.
if you dont tell her anything aobut you, she will never trust you

and if you are quiet because you dont like the BS/ small talk, then YOU be the one to steer the conversation into some area that you do find interesting.

I would suggest reading "Talking the winners way" for basic nuts and bolts of how to hold a conversation. Or read the DJ bible on conversation.

and yeah the other posters were right that it is a necessary social skill. Like beer, you just have to learn to love it.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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