SW15
Master Don Juan
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- May 31, 2020
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You could be in the range of an 8, which would be a borderline top tier man on looks.As for @SW15 's point about these things being possible if I look like a Chad, I'd probably say I'm about a high 7 or low 8 out of 10. I'm quite good-looking, but I don't have a Greek god jawline, I'm not super tall, I don't have piercing blue eyes - I don't think I'm anything special, and a lot of how I look comes from conscious decision-making. I work out 4x per week and have maintained a very strict diet for 6 or so years now (previously I was doing intermittent fasting). I've had braces and I brush my damn teeth. I had LASIK to correct my nearsightedness so I didn't have to wear glasses. I just haven't shown myself on this forum because I don't know how much I'd want to be tied to it, considering how cringe my growth journal was in the early parts.
Living at home with my parents and making less than $40,000 per year isn't such a negative that it outweighs all the positives I just listed.
Your 6'0" height is helpful. Many women, especially USA White women, tend to think that 6'0" is the threshold height for a man being desirable.
Your diet and exercise is on point.
Looks > Money. You've proven that though it is time to get a roommate and move out. Women start to judge men more on money in their 30s.
You wanted more variety and more access to options. You didn't want to settle for 1-2 social circle generated girlfriends that you could have gotten with less grief and frustrations. You aspired for more and were willing to put up with the downsides of approaching strangers or swiping on apps.I got into this at a young age because I wanted to be able to choose the women I slept with - I watched my friends get into LTRs and wait several years to have sex with aggressively average women a handful of times and knew I did NOT want that for myself. I've been cold approaching and sleeping around for 15 years now...15 years. With that much experience under my belt, I'd be more surprised if I WASN'T this good with women by now.
I didn't have any male relatives who held red pill views on romantic relationships either.I didn't have a masculine role model, mentor, or any friends in my circle who were sleeping with the hot girls in school - this was a decade and a half of approach anxiety exposure therapy in the purest form.
There are so many nightlife venue experiences that are sausagefests. Then again, the swipe apps are also sausage fests.My few NYE experiences where my buddies and I put in actual effort usually ended up being typical sausagefests where any attractive girl was sectioned off at some VIP table with her friends, away from the riff-raff.