"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Girl cancels date but wants to go out - who should ask 2nd time?

Babnik

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Right its very stressful college environment for me and many students. People's scheduled are chaotic (random group projects meeting screw with everyone's schedule). I had one chick cancel our date (truly valid reason). She is definitely into me and very apologetic. She was pretty much the one who asked me. When the date was canceled she tried to re-schedule, but it didn't work for me...(busy too) However, I get to see her every day and I don't know exactly if I should wait for her to ask me again or ask her. I don't want to seem needy/disparate but I don't think she wants to seem disparate either. Since I see her daily I just pretend like nothing happened and pay her less attention (I pay more attention to her friends and sometimes she gets frustrated about that).


So, what say you...should I ask her to chill with me or wait for her to do it?
At what point should I just forget about it..? After a week of 0 moves from her side or what? Its difficult because I see her so often...I can't get away from that.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Dude, ask another, don't EVER give over or "submit" to a woman.
 

Babnik

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Poonani Maker said:
Dude, ask another, don't EVER give over or "submit" to a woman.

...how is that submitting or giving over? Have you read my post?
 
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Tell her you are going to Y (Y= whatever event you figure) this weekend and to let you know if she wants to tag along.

Therefore you won't appear to be making a date around her/for her.

Simple.
 

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If the interest level is as high as you put it, she would have absolutely no problem with you asking her again, particularly since you were the one who could not counter offer when she counter offered the original date. Talking to her friends too much and ignoring her can be counter productive. Ask her to join you at Quidobbas for some naked burritos.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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amoka said:
If the interest level is as high as you put it, she would have absolutely no problem with you asking her again, particularly since you were the one who could not counter offer when she counter offered the original date. Talking to her friends too much and ignoring her can be counter productive. Ask her to join you at Quidobbas for some naked burritos.
I think it is high. She gave me all kinds of IOIs. She is an officer and president of several organizations and crazed about job search (very little free time). First time she gave me IOI was random arm touching/rubbing with a seductive smile and then about 2 weeks later we talked and she gave me even more IOIs, while I was just flirting, calling her dorky. She complies with small tasks/orders (giving me a ride, etc).

I semi-ignored her for just 1 day so far. Hopefully I haven't killed attraction.

I guess I should ask her out again. On the night she canceled she said "Do you still want go out???" but it was late so I said "No, its already bla bla" so then she offered but I couldn't make it.
 

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I'd seriously forget about it, because of what you said "not being able to reschedule your date, semi-ignoring her for one day..."

dude if you go to the trouble of ignoring a girl she can't be completely worth it, or if you got into a relationship it might fall apart badly.

I think you should friendzone her and hang out with her to meet her friends, but stay on good terms with her to show that you're a good guy, and she's just not worth your trouble.
 

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I'm in the Mood said:
I'd seriously forget about it, because of what you said "not being able to reschedule your date, semi-ignoring her for one day..."

dude if you go to the trouble of ignoring a girl she can't be completely worth it, or if you got into a relationship it might fall apart badly.

I think you should friendzone her and hang out with her to meet her friends, but stay on good terms with her to show that you're a good guy, and she's just not worth your trouble.
Its not that I ignored her. I acknowledged her presence but did not pay attention to her because I was busy discussing important matters with her friend. I had like a 40 second opportunity because I had to go and so did she, so I don't know...
 

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Ah f*ck it. I deleted her number a while ago. Dating is meant to be enjoyable, not a mind-f*ck.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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