"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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girl and whatsapp, now...?

pyros

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hello.


I met this hot chick last week in a pub. We chatted, we laughed, I kino scalated a bit etc so I got her number.

Two days later I write to her via whatsaapp. She replies, we have a convo etc. She always takes more than an hour to reply so I do the same.

Next day we continue the conversation and she tells me:
'For now you look too ****y so I give you the chance to show me Im wrong'
I ignore her and continue my convo till I suggest we meet for a drink.

It's been one day and she has not replied, I see her online though.




How do I proceed from here?

Thanks.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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This is a recent trend for me as well. Never used to happen.

Meet girl, msg girl, she replies, things seem good.

You spring for hey lets meet up.

then Radio silence.


If she doesn't get back to you by end of week, the best way to proceed is to work on/find another one.

She "might" get back to you in a week. But not likely.

We don't wait for women who put our valuable selves on hold.
 

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Ok. Last news.
I suggested to meet and she did not respond.
Two days later I wrote to her: hey, whats up?
she replied: hey, sorry, yes, we can meet tonight if you want.

So we arranged it, we met, we went for a drink...we laughed, I teased her etc.
when we were drinking I got close to her and she said: uh uh, and she just stepped backwards a bit while still smiling.

After that, we went to dance salsa ( she does not know, I do know) we danced for a bit, we went outside. We laughed, we talked, she touched me many times, she said while laughing: 'you're such a jerk haha' several times.
Then I got close and went for a kiss and she turned her face bit so I did stopped. Then I joked a bit, and we went in to dance a bit more.

Then I drove her home and she said:
'well, now I go up and...that is all ok?'
I said: 'yes, and you sleeping alone tonight because you're a silly silly girl hahah...'
She suggested we meet another day to dance salsa.



Wtf? never in my life a girl turned her face when I went for a kiss.
Ideas? tips?


She's very hot.

P.S.
this was first date after we met in a pub.


Thanks.
 

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Go out with her one more time; if she pulls the same shiat with pulling away or denying you when you try to kiss her, then drop her.

She's obviously use to running the show and she didn't reply to your drink invite on purpose to set the frame in her favor; ie: you chasing her.

Only way to work it now is to flip the script on her. You have to play her game on her, only better.

Next time you hang out with her, focus more on teasing her and get her excited and curious about kissing without actually doing it right away. If you do this right she will be all over you before the end of the night.

But again, don't chase her; that's what makes you look like the rest of them.







PIMP
 

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you didn't wait for her to reply/contact you first.

she probably went because she had nothing else better to do that night.

If she was into you she would have:

Replied to your text first
allowed you to get closer
allowed you to kiss her

She's very hot, which means she has LOTS more guy options.

Keep trying if you must, but I'd be looking elsewhere/finding another one at the same time,
her interest in you is low.

You probably won't take my advice like you didn't earlier, so hopefully you'll learn something from this one.


either way, let us know what happened.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I might have explained myself wrong.

IN our first conversation via whatsapp I suggested to meet and she did not repond.
So after one day and a half I just said: hey, whats up?
and she replied that we could met that night.



Anyway, what do I do now? I was thinking:

A) Let a whole week pass till I contact her again and see if she initiates during this week.
B) Wait for three or four days and:
B.1) Suggest to go to the beach.
B.2) Go to dance salsa (her idea).



Suggestions?
 

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This reminds me of a little boy playing with matches and getting close to being burned.....

Hotties are just that - Hotties, nothing more. They come with the best fooked up heads and emotions you can ever imagine. If that is your game, then game on... but be warned, you will be burned when she gets bored with you and drops you if she hasn't given you the full green light from the beginning. It is all an ego boost for most of them feeding off of men's attention.

With respect,

Exodus
 

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Hi.

So last news:

I wrote to her today.
We exchanged some texts, she asked me what I was gonna do this weekend etc.
I suggested we should go to the beach and that she should buy me an ice-cream. She replied:
'what? you want me to buy you and ice cream?'
me: 'sure, big one.'
her: hahahah well well, we'll see. Btw I'd rather go to dance.
me: well, we could go to the beach for a while and after that, at night we go to dance.
her: ok.

so we'll meet tomorrow.


Opinions?

p.S.
I was thinking about just having a good time, teasing her etc (as Pimp-sicle suggested) and then either going for a kiss by the end of the night, or just doing nothing and see if she gets closer to me, gives me IOI's and see how she behaves.

P.S2.
Im not willing to be an orbiter, I've never been one so if after this nothing good happens, Ill next her or maybe keep her as a female friend.
 

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hi.

last news.

So we arranged a second date.
She wanted to go to dance, I wanted to go to the beach, so we did both.

Btw, Pimp-sicle you were absolutely right!
We went to the beach, I teased her a lot, make her laugh, we talked...I teased her more and more...we swam...

Then at night we went to dance. I kept my distance. I teased her and bust her balls, etc etc
This time she was trying to get closer to me, not me trying to get closer to her.
By the end of the night I could feel that she was surprised I did not try anything.
Then, I dropped her home... and we started to make out in the car. She suggested to meet again.
Good ^^


P.S.
I have to say that I normally tease girls, but with this one (HB8.5) I REALLY TEASED HER, more than I would normally do.

Thanks!
 

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just by curiosity how did you tease her? trying to gather more info :) so I can learn new things to try later if possible.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Update.

This chick contacted me today to meet to go dancing. I suggested to have dinner at a restaurant and then go dancing. She said that she was gonna have dinner with a female friend but we could meet at 23h.
I said that we could do both things but tomorrow. In the end, she said that her female friend was sick (weird) and that we could do both things tonight.

Later at 22h she arrived 15 mins late. When we said hello to each other I went for a small kiss on the lips but she turn a little bit her head so we kissed almost in the lips but not totally.
We had dinner, had some laughs, talked etc.
Then we went to dance.
The dancing was so so, because it is a salsa lesson, really basic, so I get a bit bored. After the class we danced like we did on sunday but the mood was not so good as on sunday but it was ok.
Then, outside the club we were repeating some moves and then I went for a kiss and she got closer and I got a hug. I joked and acted normal.


After a while I dropped her at home and I just said bye to her, to what she looked to me with a weird face and she came closer to kiss me, so we had a small make out session, but it was shorter than on sunday. I was expecting longer than the previous time....


why she did not kiss me when we were in the street?
Opinions?
Thanks
 

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Sounds like she is into it but has doesn't like PDA. You should try to escalate things with her at this point. More private time would be a good idea. Don't plan it though, just when your out again have some good reason to go hang out at your place.

Your doing fine
 

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PLEASE guys, help me out on this one.


Walking down the street, girl asks for light. I chat to her, get her number. Proceed along street to pub and meet my bud. 15 mins after i get there, she is texting furiously....end up tellin her i cant keep textin as rude to my bud.

3 nights of MAD whatsapping.........

Meet for a drink, get drunk, kissing, tit feel, deep convo when drunk.

2 nights of whatapping agree to meet on the sat. Friday night, she asks "OK to meet tommorrow babe" im like "yeah, gonna be great weather, lookin forward to it babe"


Saturday afternoon 3pm: "I cannot meet you tonight" me "why" Her "i just want to spend the evening with my flatmates"

W T F!!!!!!!!!! CVNT!! Ruined that evening (was a week last saturday) as buds were all arranged in other things.......


Red flag 1 of instability - crazed whatsapping (unstable cling push pull) ???

Rejection theory - she was 29, thought i was 29, but im 39, do you think that matters?????

I dunno guys, its freaked me right out..................
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Hello.

See this. Three days after our third encounter, I mean today, I wrote to her. Talked for a bit, some laughts, ok.
I suggested to go roller blading at 17h. She said sure, but Im gonna have lunch with my male room mate and then Ill go to the beach but we can meet at 19h if you can.
I said lets meet at 18:30 because of the Sun, she said ok but that she has to go to the supermarket because tomorrow it will be closed so she has to go there around 20:30, so I said: so just go now and do not bother me woman, and she said: well not now, Im gonna have lunch lol.


Im thinknig that if she had high interest she would not make a time limit, dont you think? (at 20:30 Ill leave and I cant go before)
Maybe Im over thinking?

Thanks.
 

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If a girl/woman is really into you, she will kiss you and make it good, she will makeout with you, she will want to see you and initiate things as well...Im not seeing a lot of this in this thread!
 

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see this. she texted me to insist we met at 19h because she could not make it before. (she said she went to the beach etc so she cant make it before 19h...?).
Then she called me and I said ok but then I said that it may get cold if we go roller blading so late, and that I have to meet my friends at 21:30, so I said we leave it for another time.

Then she said: 'oh ok...' and she said that tomorrow she's going with some friends to dance salsa and asked if I'd like to go. To which I replied that if none of them knows how to dance a bit, I'll think about it...


What do you think guys? she could just meet at 19h because she was 'busy' before ok, but she said also that she had to go to the supermarket at around 20:30. Then I decline the plan and she suggests to meet to go dancing but with her friends? wtf?
last two times we went to dance we TWO, nobody else included.
What do you think?
Did I manage it ok?
Ideas?


Thanks.
 
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