"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Getting that 2nd/3rd etc. date...

rhcp83

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I noticed that it isn't hard to get a girl's number if you aren't a complete chump and she finds you attractive enough or even a first date...but how do you get the second/third/fourth date etc. . I'm not worrying about "getting a girlfriend"...I'm worried about building enough of a rapport for things to get physical since the women I'm attracted to aren't the skanks that would put out on a first date.

I guess I just feel kind of hopeless because women will find ANY reason to lose interest in you, sometimes not even your fault. For guys, the woman pretty much just has to be attractive to us and not a douche (some guys on here like douches actually but that's a different story) and we're in at least for the short term. Women, it's like you have to be her idea of a dream guy.

What are things you can do to ensure the next date besides the obvious? It's getting kind of irritating either dating a girl that turns out to be a complete prude, or not getting another date despite no glaring errors with someone you want to mess around with.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Serg897

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In general you should not contact the next day, unless she does first or you had sex. But really, there are no real rules. Sometimes there will be that elusive chemistry and obtaining date two will be incredibly easy. Other times it just wont work with some women, for whatever reason.

I've been on 4 first dates the past two weeks. 3 of them almost certainly wont go anywhere for various reasons, and I have significant doubts about the fourth one as well. But you know what? It doesn't matter. There will always be more women and more first dates. New numbers to call are so easy to obtain. But most importantly, Im learning now to focus my energies on other things, and not be thinking about women, pickup and seduction all the time. There really is more to life than this.

This should be your attitude too. Just keep living your life and making moves on women you like (obtaining numbers, etc), and eventually a highly interested one WILL come along that has that elusive chemistry, leading to dates 2,3, and beyond.
 
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