Get the power back after flake

[Tortendieb]

Met this girl which recently flaked. I figure I wasn't enough of a challenge, so if we do meet again, how can I turn this around?

1st date: hit it off great, her standing real close to me all the time, makeout at the end, all lights supergreen

No text or call from her though. I initiate.

2nd date: went bouldering, had loads of fun, again kino, everything great. I offered to watch a film at my place afterwards which she declined. Admittedly it wasnt super smooth, but I figured if she liked me it wouldn't hurt my chances. Didn't expect anything so I didn't chump out on it. She said something like she'd be free next week.

No text or call again for a WEEK. I'd like to call her to keep the momentum going, but I was actually waiting for her to show some initiative. Red flag.

Flake: Her phone is off so I text her to go to the cinema. She later texts back that she's busy all week (typical bullsh!t). Since her phone is now on I call her, she doesn't pick up.

That's pretty sad lol, and I wrote her off. Shame. Seeing differnt girls. However now I'm actually thinking of asking her out one final time. If she accepts, how do I steer the interaction to make her a bit less comfortable and myself MORE of a challenge?

 

[BrainDamage92]

Well if a woman wants to **** you she will so either you hit a bad timing or she has another plan or shes only playin you so time will tell

 

[RangerMIke]

She has low interest. I wouldn't waste any time with her. But if you are dead set on trying again, wait a couple of weeks and try and ask her out again. If she won't go out, or counter-offer, NEXT!

 

[Poon King]

OP.. snap out of the beta desperation.

If a woman is this difficult in the early stages of a relationship.. what makes you think it will get better? A callus woman will always be callus. A b!tch will always be a b!tch.

As relationships progress a woman's behavior always gets WORSE... not better. So if her behavior is bad from the start.. its obvious she is worthless and should be NEXTED right away.

By going along with this crap and playing her game.. you are communicating the following:

1. You have no sexual alternatives
2. You are weak and desperate
3. You have low standards for female behavior
4. You will put up with anything
5. You are in low demand (see #1)
6. You have little if any dignity.. thus you are not sexy.. thus.. there is no urgency on her part to please you.
7. You are a beta b!tch she can walk on and use

Wake up. Being a doormat is NEVER the proper lubrication for a woman's twaht. You can never be too mean or indifferent to women... only too nice. FACT.

 

[TarantulaHawk]

OP.. snap out of the beta desperation.

If a woman is this difficult in the early stages of a relationship.. what makes you think it will get better? A callus woman will always be callus. A b!tch will always be a b!tch.

As relationships progress a woman's behavior always gets WORSE... not better. So if her behavior is bad from the start.. its obvious she is worthless and should be NEXTED right away.

If a woman's behavior "always gets worse" in a relationship than it's obvious you aren't the "alpha" you'd like others to believe. You are basically every woman you've ever been in a relationship with beta doormat like you've listed below.

And if a woman is difficult from the start and her behavior is bad from the jump I'd doubt she'd care if you "nexted" her.

By going along with this crap and playing her game.. you are communicating the following:

1. You have no sexual alternatives
2. You are weak and desperate
3. You have low standards for female behavior
4. You will put up with anything
5. You are in low demand (see #1)
6. You have little if any dignity.. thus you are not sexy.. thus.. there is no urgency on her part to please you.
7. You are a beta b!tch she can walk on and use

Wake up. Being a doormat is NEVER the proper lubrication for a woman's twaht. You can never be too mean or indifferent to women... only too nice. FACT.

Why does a man need "sexual alternatives" in order to leave a bad situation unless he's a slave to vag in the first place? He'd just leave regardless.

 

[Poon King]

If a woman's behavior "always gets worse" in a relationship than it's obvious you aren't the "alpha" you'd like others to believe. You are basically every woman you've ever been in a relationship with beta doormat like you've listed below.

And if a woman is difficult from the start and her behavior is bad from the jump I'd doubt she'd care if you "nexted" her.

It doesn't matter if she "cares" or not fool.:crackup:

You are NEXTING her to move on with your life.. not to play some faggy beta mindgame.

And YES a woman's behavior always gets worse as a relationship continues. It doesn't matter how alpha a man is. Women are wired to constantly test men. This is backed up by science.

No woman will be the same 10 years into a relationship a she was 10 days in. If you think otherwise you are delusional.

This is why women have the famous expiration date where alphas f*ck and chuck so betas can wife up the damaged goods and take care of kids that are not his. :crackup:

Why does a man need "sexual alternatives" in order to leave a bad situation unless he's a slave to vag in the first place? He'd just leave regardless.

You missed the point. Sexual alternatives decrease the level of investment you need to get laid. Women want men who other women want. By spinning plates.. you always have accessible poon without much work.

It doesn't mean you HAVE to chase women and sex 24/7. It is just a strategy to maximize return and minimize investment.

Think deeper.

 

[TarantulaHawk]

It doesn't matter if she "cares" or not fool.:crackup:

You are NEXTING her to move on with your life.. not to play some faggy beta mindgame. .

Why get so worked up over nexting bro? If the woman doesn't care to begin with she doesn't care if you "next" her. She wouldn't care if you played your beta faggy mindgames or nexted her.

And YES a woman's behavior always gets worse as a relationship continues. It doesn't matter how alpha a man is. Women are wired to constantly test men. This is backed up by science..

What science is this you speak of?

[No woman will be the same 10 years into a relationship a she was 10 days in. If you think otherwise you are delusional.

This is why women have the famous expiration date where alphas f*ck and chuck so betas can wife up the damaged goods and take care of kids that are not his. :crackup:

If you've never been in a long term relationship like you claim then you can't speak from experience you can only guess and use other's opinions that "support" your guess.

You missed the point. Sexual alternatives decrease the level of game you need to get laid. Women want men who other women want. By spinning plates.. you always have accessible poon without much work.

It doesn't mean you HAVE to chase women and sex 24/7. It is just a strategy to maximize return and minimize investment.

Think deeper.

Odd. I know many men who don't "spin plates" nor need to and they have no trouble getting new women. There are always sexual alternatives regardless of having "plates" or not.

 

[skinnyguy]

Low interest and low quality. Next.

 

[Poon King]

Why get so worked up over nexting bro? If the woman doesn't care to begin with she doesn't care if you "next" her. She wouldn't care if you played your beta faggy mindgames or nexted her.

Who gives a sh!t what the woman "cares" about? :crackup:

Only one getting "worked up" is you.

What science is this you speak of?

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=224483

If you've never been in a long term relationship like you claim then you can't speak from experience you can only guess and use other's opinions that "support" your guess.

Just like.. if you've never been to Japan.. there is no way for you to know there are Japanese people there. Right? Its not like humans communicate with each other or anything like that... :crackup:

Odd. I know many men who don't "spin plates" nor need to and they have no trouble getting new women. There are always sexual alternatives regardless of having "plates" or not.

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I said spinning plates maximizes return and minimizes investment.

You're starting to sound like a buffoon.

 

[TarantulaHawk]

Who gives a sh!t what the woman "cares" about? :crackup:

Only one getting "worked up" is you.

You apparently do since you have a consistent axe to grind with them and weakly try to "hide" it by posting your "advice" to dudes.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=224483

You posted two videos of T.V show clips as "science" and a MGTOW video as your "scientist"? :crackup: Instead of watching T.V all day leave your house dude. A cult of disgruntled neutered "men". "MGTOW" GTFO Hahahaha

Just like.. if you've never been to Japan.. there is no way for you to know there are Japanese people there. Right? Its not like humans communicate with each other or anything like that... :crackup:

But you've already stated you never have or will get into a long term relationship so you can't speak on it. Your "example" is invalid.

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I said spinning plates maximizes return and minimizes investment.

You're starting to sound like a buffoon.

You're still placing yourself at women's hands because you need a woman or women to validate you rather than walking away regardless if you have one or not. The only thing you're "spinning" on is your thumb.

 

[BrainDamage92]

listen to what poon says and disregard the rest

Female love scales with the amount of attention you get from other women.
For example, the sister of a friend studies psychology, we was talking about how a common friend was being used by his GF, so she said: "Well he doesnt have any other female friends so normal." And I agree completely, this should be common knowledge.

Especially if the social circle is the same and they hear other women have intentions for you can make women fall in love so quickly, which is exactly why dating a coworker, for example is so naive. Its very easy to **** with the female brain in this way, so in the past what we call now "beta" was considered golden couse people realised female nature and kept women in check without hurting their feelings, but females stepped up they game so much, and there is stuff that noone tells a boy but females know it + ***** dominated "gender equality". And people marrying someone from work or whom they met at a club ahahahah.

Men, on the other hand, ofc dont want anyone else to **** with their girl, but many people dont know these things and I laugh

Its better to be a bit sad than happily ***** whipped in my book

 

[TarantulaHawk]

listen to what poon says and disregard the rest

Female love scales with the amount of attention you get from other women.
For example, the sister of a friend studies psychology, we was talking about how a common friend was being used by his GF, so she said: "Well he doesnt have any other female friends so normal." And I agree completely, this should be common knowledge.

Especially if the social circle is the same and they hear other women have intentions for you can make women fall in love so quickly, which is exactly why dating a coworker, for example is so naive. Its very easy to **** with the female brain in this way, so in the past what we call now "beta" was considered golden couse people realised female nature and kept women in check without hurting their feelings, but females stepped up they game so much, and there is stuff that noone tells a boy but females know it + ***** dominated "gender equality". And people marrying someone from work or whom they met at a club ahahahah.

Men, on the other hand, ofc dont want anyone else to **** with their girl, but many people dont know these things and I laugh

Its better to be a bit sad than happily ***** whipped in my book

Because you need to have women in your life in order to have common sense as a rational thinking man. LMAO.

If you take a dork who's on a low scale in looks with a girlfriend other women don't give a crap. They're worried about the HOT dude who completes their own mental fantasies. THAT dude who does or doesn't have a girlfriend.

Some women care about the dude who has a girlfriend that already possesses their "dream" qualities. A certain height, look, physique, amount of money, and status.

Otherwise any shlub with a girlfriend would have every chick tripping over themselves to get him. Unfortunately for the dreamers that's not real life.

Just having some chick doesn't mean every other chick will automatically "want" you. There's far too many other variables. Keep deluding yourselves though.