"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Gentlemen

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This is what I asked...

GEntleman...
Now the point that is sometimes overstressed that women love or at least like jerks.But where is the gentlemenliking women?Dont they exist?Doing nice things like showing etiquettes or literary knowledge or poetry or anything of the sort doesnt pay?Not overpretending but dont women like such guys?I think they do.They r infact the romantic people.I f I ve got it wrong correct me


This is what Msthang answered ....Its nice...


MsThang
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Here's something that most guys completely don't get. All women like those things if SHE LIKES YOU ALREADY. The problem with most guys is that they shower gifts and praise and such on women who really couldn't care less. You can't start out doing these things or you will get the "yuck" reaction described awhile ago on the sosuave site. Unfortunatly men then get the impression that women do not like these things at all. That is false. Girlfriends then get pissed at you because you don't do any of these things and you feel like you can't win. So here it is, plain and simple:

If a girl does not already obviously really like you:

DO NOT shower her with praise. DO NOT give her presents. DO NOT suck up to her in any way. This will not make her like you; quite the contrary, it will make the very thought of you make her say "yuck!"

If a girl does like you:

THEN you can be yourself. THEN you can be the gentleman you should be. THEN you can get her cute little gifts if that's your thing. Because now they will be appreciated. If things like this still give her a "yuck" reaction, she wasn't that interested in the first place and you should find someone else.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Lifeforce

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Msthang is spot on. Allthough shower her is never really good, do something nice from time to time. I believe that you shouldn't do all those grandioso things people do trying to be as romantic as possible but only end up stressing the girl to be as "romantic."

The small stuff is better to do, maybe doing the dishes when she is suppossed to because she came home from exhausting day at work or maybe for no reason plucking a flower and give it to her. It's more beautiful in it's simplicity than buying 100 roses like some people do. I think most women agree on this that small stuff is better than going over the top like too many people do.

And off course she must like you before, an exfriend of mine bought alot of roses to a bartender which he did not know.
 
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