"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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GANJI: The support thread

SamePendo

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I met this woman.
It felt like heaven on earth. She's hot. She isn't a party nut. She takes family seriously. She asked for the exclusive relationship. She made plans for December, everything. She took the lead.
Then she said she was in a pre-menopause stage . . . she's 29. She said she was feeling depressed. One day, after her not being home at night, I called her cell, she didn't answer. Answered some minutes later, saying that she was with a (male) friend at a bar, all things in life weren't going well. I called her 10 minutes later, she didn't answer.
You can read about this woman here.
Well, the day she was coming to see me (she lives in another city), she was going to a nearby city with a "friend", who has $ but by stealing from the people (politics) and is almost 50, and while he worked in the morning, come and see me. I got a message from her cell basically asking who I was, if I was her sister.

I've been in denial, I feel as if I still am. Anyways, Ganjiis the way to go.

Do please read the original Ganji thread.
Why? When you're in oneitis, nexting is hard as hell. Ganji helps because, you basically next her, but keep an open door, so that you can do your thing, and initially be calm, because you know that the door isn't being shut. An important part of Ganji is self improvement. So, in time, you can either fall out of oneitis, and/or she returns to you. Meanwhile, you check on what drew her away on the first place. This is win-win-win-win. Ganji is self improvement, and it even helps with the climate crisis: you stop crying rivers and help to control the rising sea levels.

It's like judo. Using the strength of your opponent to your advantage. All that frustration you have, you employ on looking for the hottest, coolest women, and you also canalize that energy into your job. And I've got lots of frustration. I haven't been able to sleep. I wont go into details here, I got detailed in the SOS thread.


Join in!

Want to know if you qualify for Ganji? It's easy, two questions:

Do you have oneitis?
Are you positive that at one point she was at least moderately interested?

If so, she's Ganji material. Join in! When you feel like cracking, come here, express your feelings, ask for help. We'll all try to help.


I'd like to begin this with two questions of my own:

1) If, and when, she cracks, when and how do you respond to her?
I suppose you shouldn't answer texts. Wait till she gets desperate on her calls? And when she displays certain things, how do you respond? What do you say?

2) I can potentially see her sister on a daily basis. She is on my messenger thing. I'm currently avoiding all contact with her. I'm only planning on having contact with her when I go out with a hottie and make her see in a discrete manner.

Onward to manhood.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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betterthandead

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When you're honest with yourself and to a mature woman. You have no need to ganji or use whatever method to date a woman.
 

WC2

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SamePendo said:
Onward to manhood.
Onward to manhood? Let me repeat, onward to MANDHOOD?

Ganji games. A word I never want to hear on this forum again unless

1. You're admitting you're stooping low

or

2. You're not touting yourself to be "Onward to Manhood"

If anything you're onward to more failures and greater loss.

Men don't formulate ways to win women back who have wronged them. The ones who do this come to great pains when they realize that the feelings of this woman have never left them, but to the contrary her feelings for you while they may come back for a short time, will never be what yours are in the long run.

If you want to get take another shot at your ex, fine. Just don't formulate a game plan for it and then pronounce yourself stepping into the realm of manhood. All you're doing is artificially convincing yourself that you don't like her, just to fall back down into that wretched hole you came from again. This isn't the act of a man, but the act of a needy feminine man who needs a woman.

Men only go back to women if the man himself has wronged them. Playing 'ganji games' with a woman who has left you or has pulled some shady actions like these is not a road to self improvement. It's a road to insanity.
 

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Ganji is the sh1t and never seems to fail unless u are so clingy to begin with. It has never failed for me. I've told girls the most fvcked up sh1t in the world after they disrespected me like sh1t I couldn't imagine anyone handling. And whatb do u know there emotions dip when ucut off contact and they break. Then u r in control. Think it also works well when u tell them exactly what ur doing. I've told girls well im going to leave u alone . Then go no contact then booom, "what r u doing?" Just as lomg as u let tem know before u cut contact they are acting stupid or did something wrong u will have success. Just don't crack.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Tekniq

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WC2 said:
Playing 'ganji games' with a woman who has left you or has pulled some shady actions like these is not a road to self improvement. It's a road to insanity.

Some of us still manage human emotions, and those that do tend to follow them.
 

Desdinova

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Some of us still manage human emotions, and those that do tend to follow them.
If you enjoy being on an emotional rollercoaster yourself, Ganji is the way to go. If you've had your heart broken by your one-itis, you will surely have it broken again after using Ganji to get her back.

Women should NOT get second chances, and you should make them aware of this when you decide to enter into a relationship with them. If a woman knows that you'll permanently kick her out of her life if she screws up, she will work harder to be on her best behavior.

Ganji is not helpful for those who are working to move forward with their lives. It helps keep unnecessary baggage around and restricts you from making progress not only with women, but with your life.
 

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Proper Ganji (or at least what I think of as proper) is next'ing a girl, fully knowing that if she never contacts you again, you'll be OK with with it, because next'ing her was the right thing to do given the situation. Meanwhile you invest your time and mental energy in other people and events as if she doesn't exist.

We're all human, so it might take a short amount of time to properly eject her from your mind...a few days to a couple of weeks. If you can't do that, then you aren't doing it right.
 
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