"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yeh I have been thinking about it alot and can see that the majority of the time it was me that instigated contact whilst we were seeing each other. I guess I did come across a bit too available whereas the other guy probably wasn't, hence the increased interest for him.

I really wish i had found this site before I started seeing her then i wouldn't have come across as such as wuss, and sent her stupid messages before i instigated No Contact. I would have been able to disappear when i saw the signs earlier. Now she knows she got to me! Oh well i know now, thanks very much for all the posts guys, your advice has been invaluable.
I highly doubt she was the long term type anyway so I'm sure even if there hadn't of been another fella on the scene it would have burnt out quickly anyway. It's just no one likes being second best! Hopefully she'll get lost now and leave me alone.

I'm getting back out there onto some more dates, cheers fellas.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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At the time she really did seem into it though, she was playing the part well when we went out on dates, but was just an absolute pain to get on them. Anyway anyone who was really that much work that early on definitely was just going to get worse, thanks guys.
 
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I sent her a final message after her message yesterday, that I knew that she wasn't interested and I have no problem with that now, and good luck with everything, and that I'm always smiling, after she asked.

That's the end of it now I hope, not gonna play anymore games with this one and hopefully she's not gonna contact again!
 
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I shouldn't have sent her that final message.
Just got another message off her, deleted it but it was a typical one telling me all about what she had been up to on her holiday recently and then the usual saying I hope you're OK at the end. She's obviously just trying to keep me around for a bit.

Not going to reply anymore, made myself look like such a chump with this one.
 
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at least you get it now :), you should also delete her number, or better yet block it
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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