"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Wow...


I always find it extremely amusing whenever I see people on this site complaining about what someone else is doing is "just not right" or proclaim "have some morals for God's sake!"

The same people giving you sh*t for wanting to get with this chick are the same ones, as one of them has even admitted openly in this very thread, that will willingly and consciously have sex with married women, accumulate as many girlfriends/****buddies/etc. as possible, use other women solely for the purpose of obtaining more, and so forth.

But try to get with the 2-week girlfriend of a man who will be overseas indefinitely and suddenly an onslaught of objectors come in here to make you feel guilty for thinking about getting with a female that has shown you several signs of interest.

Perhaps if this were a site filled with, you know, ethical people I could at least understand how people are finding this objectionable.

Perhaps if there were a mandatory draft causing this guy to be forced into the military and sent to Iraq against his will rather than the actual situation: a man getting assigned to Iraq as a part of his previously-known obligation/occupational duty as an employee of the U.S. Military Service. I suppose if this guy cheats on this girl while in Iraq (and believe me, it'll happen if he ends up being stationed there long enough), no one here would raise an objectionable finger.

Perhaps if this guy was actually married to this girl and in Iraq (rather than their highly-committed 2-week-long relationship :rolleyes:) I would raise objection... not because of him being in Iraq, but because of... *gasp*... marriage.

Hell, perhaps if this site were not filled with tips of toying with women's emotion's to make them susceptible to further mind games designed to make the "HB's" more likely to f*ck you regardless of how much of a sleeze you may or may not actually be, and other forms of basic manipulation... maybe then I could understand where everyone is coming from with the value-judgements.

Long Rant Short: We all know why we're here, so get off your high horses *******s.

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In regards to the actual question at hand, I'd say she's made it more or less evident that she has, at the very least, some interest in you.

However, as previously mentioned in this thread, this chick probably isn't girlfriend material, so only pursue if you're looking for easy sex. If not, at least always carry that debit card so you can snag a few more $60 dinners before she catches on ;) haha

I'm going to assume you are reffering to my post.

I don't have to justify myself to anyone, however because alot of you guys are new and doesn't see or understand the underlying issues at hand, I will expand on my somewhat breif post.


First of all, 2 weeks, 2 days, 2 years. It doesn't matter. If it wasn't serious, she wouldn't have mentioned it to him. In other words, just because you "date" someone for 2 weeks, you are assuming that only 2 weeks has been put into their relationship.

My last GF of a year, was pretty much an 18 month relationship, as we didn't officialy date for 6 months.

Now to the GF is away/Marriage issue.

You don't seem to understand the point I am trying to make. It's twofold.

First of all, it's a difference between ****ing a girl that has her BF of 8 months or a husband that is AFC to the max and she is dying to get away, while he is seeing her every day.

he gets the chance to see her everyday, and he isn't living up to his end of hte bargin.

He gets to make love to her, and she isn't satisfied.

He is the equilvlant of a procecuting attorney trying with all he has to make a case, but it just isn't there.

In that circumstance, I have no qualms about having sex with a woman that throws herself at me (note, I never CHASE a married woman or a woman in a relationship, that's pointless, but if she makes her interests known depending on the circumstance, I might play along.. also depending on the circumstances, I might not)

I also wouldn't be mad, not in the least bit, if I got AFC on my LTR and she looked for other options. That's the way the game works, and you can't blame her.


However, that's a hop skip and a jump from being the "comforter" for a girl when her man is out risking his life for your saftey.

most guys, including myself, would never join the army, navy or marines.

The least you can freakin do, and this is just my opinion, is not **** the poor sap's girl while he is away risking his life.

Plus, you aren't really "stealing" his GF, she is just lonley. Who knows if they had a good relationship, it doesn't matter, at least to me. Even if she is throwing herself at me, this is one situtation i wouldn't touch with a 10 foot yard pole (i'll explain)

Above, I said that depending on the circumstances, yes I will have sex with a woman that is taken in one way or another.


This is one i wouldn't. Partly out of respect for people who protect me.

Also because, even if I think it's perfectly moral, HE MIGHT NOT.

That's one street I don't plan to cross. A guy comes home after a 18 month duty, only to find his GF found "someone else" and he makes it his only mission in life to make your life a living hell/kill you/injure you.

It's just not worth it.

I have had sex with 3 married women in my life. Two were seperated, so I don't even count thoose.. I mean, you are seperated.

One took me about 2 months to pull the trigger, even though she was throwing herself at me, I mean, she was married for 5 years, but after talking to her, and actually meeting her husband threw a friend and finding out that he was cheating on her anyway, I could care less.

My oneitis. Was in a relationship for 3 years. About 2 years into that, she calls me, after her BF made her cry for being an *******.. Honestly he did go a tad bit overboard but I don't take sides usually in other people's rifts.

anyway, she wants to see me. She comes over and tells me her parents are out of town and doesn't want to be alone, asks can she spend the night.

Duh!!

I mean, she is literarly throwing herself at me. She knew I wanted her. I knew she wanted to have sex.. you could cut the tension with a knife.

One of the hardest decisions I have ever made, was not to have sex with the woman I was head over heels for that night. Oh did I want to. Words can't describe how bad I wanted to. But I knew I was making the right decision.

First of all, her BF was crazy. not just like 'damn he's a fool' crazy, but like seriously, I'll kill myself if you leave me crazy. If it's one thing I know, is I didn't want to be the reason they broke up. He already didn't like me, for what reason I had no idea, I had just started talking to her after 2 years and I didn't even contact her, she contacted me.

It's not that I was scared of him.. I can defend myself and he's a chump. Never the less, he's a chump that I know carrys around a knife and was now hanging around well known drug dealers..


In that case, I decided because the mental state of her BF, that wasn't a risk for me to take that night.

It's never as cut and dry as "she has a BF= Leave her alone"

Eventually, she left him, and we hooked up dozens of times.. just not that night at that time.

There are circumstances to every relationship. There was a point in time where if my ex GF was cheating on me, there wasn't anything I could do becasuse in all honestly I was doing the same.

But if you would have asked her did she have a BF and she would have said yes, and she would have told we have been together for 3-4 months or whatever, and most guys would have left it at that.


AS far as the DJing Aspect of this entire senerio.. From that experience, it's not so much that she really likes him, it's that she probably Misses her BF.

Throw that in with the fact that you are sleeping with a woman, who is grabbing your package at night and you are already acting that timid... you are already at the point of no return in my book once you are sleeping in the same bed and petting.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I know you love me, but we're not meant to be. I'm straight, you see. Sorry, hon. I'm sure theres a guy out there for you.
"Hon"??... And I'm supposed to buy your straight?

Hey do a search on google I heard some guy cuts his d!ck off, that one should have you in stitches for hours.
 

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im beginning to think that everyone on this site are basically morons.

Like, seriously, you people are really really stupid. Stupendously so.


I see guys bragging on and on about how they did some broad who had a husband, or when her husband was in the other room, or how they pulled a girl with a b/f daily. Hell, one guy said that he only was attracted if they did have a b/f. But now, oh god no, its wrong.

SO WHY WASNT IT WRONG BEFORE??

This place is filled with journalism majors i'll bet. That and Criminology.

I have personally always thought it was wrong to steal someone elses girl, and was always disgusted by the thought. But it seems that you weak minded "Don Juans" are capable of being swayed by the slightest hint of patriotism and peer pressure. Gee, I'm glad you have such deep rooted morals.

To the people who said go for it- while i think your wrong, i thank you for sticking to what you said, and not just changing your ideals at the drop of the hat. Its refreshing to see there are still some real men here.

edit-backbreaker, i dont mean you. I know you, and you stick to what you say. so that isnt directed at you.
 

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I'm of the opinion this b!tch has free will and can bang any guy she wants to. You are, however, not fvcking her thus you're her girlfriend. I'm all for our guys out there in the sand but if you wanna bang her down to a nub I don't see any issues with it.

If you aren't going to fvck her then you can pillow fight and taste each others' toothpaste. Be sure to gargle b!tch.
 

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As far as i can tell, the reason why backbreaker wouldn't sleep with a soldier's girl is because their job requires them to kill other human beings. I suppose if it was an assassin's, gangbanger's or mobster's girl it would be hands off too.

Here's the way I see this whole issue about cheating with a soldier's girl.

Okay, maybe the reason that the guy is serving his country and protecting the nation actually influences the decision not to sleep with a soldier's girl. Here's the thing though, it is only so when this soldier is some faceless and unknown character. Once you start to get to know this soldier, you will definitely be influenced in some way to either back off from his girl or jump right in. Seldom though would a person be totally unaware of what the soldier is like. The girl will most probably spill stories about how he's like and how their relationship is moving along. All this WILL influence your decision to either cheat with her or not.

Plus wouldn't it be extremely unfortunate if the girl would to lie about her boyfriend's occupation after you've like fvcked her brains out and you get to know about it after he bursts through the door wearing his uniform? You may argue that you were lied to and deceived, but as an adult screwing a girl that is already attached, you should have had the foresight to expect that she's the type of girl that lies and deceives. So, it's either you were dumb and never expected a cheater to lie to you, or you were fully aware of the risks of her lying to you and you fully accept whatever consequences comes with it, even if it includes her boyfriend ripping your head off.

Never kid yourself as to the reasons why you respond in certain ways. Sure it might seem noble and honorable to the unsuspecting listener. But anyone with an understanding of how the human mind reasons it's way through situations will know the underlying reasons behind certain human responses.

One other thing, if you ever value your life and have no intention whatsoever to die in the hands of a jealous lover, I strongly suggest that you refrain from sleeping with wives and girls with boyfriends. To do otherwise is to take risks that you are not willing to lose big time on.

My suggestion to xxjswxx and to everyone else, don't fear death. Enjoy yourself and your life even if it kills you.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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watch jarhead then come back to this thread
 

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buddy

watch jarhead then come back to this thread

I've seen Jarhead and I fail to understand how it is trying to 'educate' the guys back home not to sleep with a jarhead's girl.

If you can explain it to me, I would greatly appreciate it.
 

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JonJack said:
As far as i can tell, the reason why backbreaker wouldn't sleep with a soldier's girl is because their job requires them to kill other human beings. I suppose if it was an assassin's, gangbanger's or mobster's girl it would be hands off too.

ding ding ding

I have and never will be that pent up for pvssy to get in that type of prodicument.

I am enjoying the party. As long as you play by a set of rules, you will have fun for a long, long time, and won't have to have much to clean up once the party is over

I have had, a couple of situtations where a women was throwing themsleves at me, but i had an idea of what their men at the time did, and passed.

And it's not so much that I couldn't defend myself against my old oneitis BF.. why even get in the particulment where i would have to if I KNOW he is crazy?

Everyone's set of rules are different. What I do, and how I operate might be very different from someone else.

I don't personally believe in marriage, at least current day marriage, therefore the fact that a woman is "married" is of no relavance to me.

The fact that she has a MAN who she loves, and even if you do all you can to get to her, she is probably going to end up with that man, IS

As I said, I have slept with 2 seperated women. I am sleeping with one of them know. I have been over her house before while her "husband" shows up, no big deal, they are just waiting on paperwork.

Even the girl that was really married, he told me he knew she was going to **** me before I did, and it was no suprise to him.

Ironically, the biggest confrintation I had was with the BF of my old oneitis.. the one I DIDN'T have sex with. NO throws were thrown, but with him acting like that and I didn't even touch his girl, even with her throwing herself at me, that was one issue I didn't want to deal with.


Hell, just the other day, well not the other day, about a month ago, I was at a Strip Club and this guy got jumped by a mexican gang because he was ****ing one of the gang members girls... knowningly.

I remember when my I was a little younger, and I was staying over my dad's house, I called the police because there was this guy that kept sneaking in and out the yard, looking threw windows.. Turns out, it was the husband of the woman my dad was ****ing at the time, and he was "spying" on my dad.. he wasn't there, and when he got there there was a small confintation, but nothing serious.

Then again, there was a guy about 3 months ago that found out his GF was cheating on him, she let it be known in front of all of her GF's while they were at thier house, so he went into the bedroom, got a shotgun and killed everyone there, then himself. Not too far from here, like 10 mintues.


So what I am getting it, is if a woman is married/BF, there is a very, very fine line I will walk. I can tell if the girl has a BF that is "cool" or if she has a Bf/Husband that is AFC to the max and will try to take it out on me. Just experience lets you learn stuff like that.

That usually goes on with younger guys first and foremost. The older guys get, the more they seem to mellow out. most of the sucides by guys that girls left them are under the age of 22. most, not all. My old oneitis's BF tried to kill himself twice, by overdosing on pills, and he would have succeed if my old oneitis wouldn't have bust the door down and called the hospital. All because she told him she was thinking of leaving. (made a post about it here)


Even when they JUST broke up, she tried to hook up with me and I wouldn't.. becuase he was still a little off the radar for this girl. Showing up at all hours of the night checking on her.. I told her the time will come, and eventually I guess he got the point she wasn't coming back, and only then did I make the move.

Just because she is ****ing you, doesn't mean she is a bad person.

Maybe the guy isn't living up to his duties.

If you start to date a woman who is a 9, and over time turns into a 4, are you wrong for looking elsewhere?

Now me, i would break up with her first, but women don't operate like that.. always at least, we know that by now.

Now, maybe she is ****ed up.. that's for you to decide.

I for one am smart enough to know, if she is "taken" but yet she is ALWAYS FREE, I mean ALWAYS, a red flag is going to go off.. either he is in jail or in the army.. either or isn't a good sign
 

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One other thing, if you ever value your life and have no intention whatsoever to die in the hands of a jealous lover, I strongly suggest that you refrain from sleeping with wives and girls with boyfriends. To do otherwise is to take risks that you are not willing to lose big time on.
Thats Hollywood.

The amount of attached chicks getting boned while the long term partner is out buying her a Valentines card or whatever would literally be countless.

Sure it does happen, the odd AFC does flip out and kill a man over his b!tch but you would probably have a greater chance of dying from a bee sting.

As for a regular beat down? Do you know of many first hand experiences where the AFC attacks the guy? because I dont and I'm 30.

Sure it can be risky I guess but so can swimming in the ocean.

Thats what laws against physical violence are for. Realistically using the argument of the angry boyfriend as to why you shouldnt nail an attached chick is rubbish and a non issue.
 

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( . )( . ) said:
Thats Hollywood.

The amount of attached chicks getting boned while the long term partner is out buying her a Valentines card or whatever would literally be countless.

Sure it does happen, the odd AFC does flip out and kill a man over his b!tch but you would probably have a greater chance of dying from a bee sting.

As for a regular beat down? Do you know of many first hand experiences where the AFC attacks the guy? because I dont and I'm 30.

Sure it can be risky I guess but so can swimming in the ocean.

Thats what laws against physical violence are for.

exactly. If you are going to WORRY about that, i can give you a ****load of more important things to worry about in everyday life.

Our earth is going to hell in a handbasket, yet you are worried about getting beat up by a girl's BF.


I mean, still take some saftey measures if you can, but I mean, life is to be lived, not feared.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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In response to ( . )( . ) and backbreaker's posts.

The point I'm trying to make is not about worrying about losing big time but accepting and understanding that you could lose big time. You don't just go about doing things that will probably piss people off if they found out about it without thinking about this. Sure it may not happen to you in your lifetime because the probability of it is so small. But that isn't exactly wise as it is an ignorant excuse.

I'm fully aware of the dangers out there in the world. For example, I know that speeding increases your chances of having a fatal accident or getting permanently disabled. I do speed on occassions and if I were to unfortunately die or get maimed in an accident, I fully and completely accept my predicament without any regrets. I'm not gonna tell myself in my grave or in a wheelchair that I shouldn't have done this or I should've done that instead or feel sorry for myself. It would be just too ignorant on my part.

Certain things you do, you can leave with your life and body intact. You learn from it and progress yourself from there. If you're unfortunate enough, you die. But before you do, you shouldn't be a whimpering regretful pleading wreck. Hence why I encourage enjoying your life even if it kills you.
 
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