"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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FR: Is no contact the best thing to do when a girl starts acting uninterested?

Scion

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Went out with this girl on the weekend. First date in probably 2 months. Anyway, we seemed to have a fun time. She was visibly nervous, and confessed that she was nervous and thought I stood her up (because she didn't meet me where I told her to meet me, lol). We grabbed some coffee, walked around a mall and talked. Lead her around, which she wanted (she even told me that she doesn't care where we went, it was up to me). Eventually we sat down, grabbed a bite to eat.

After eating I suggested we go back to my place to watch a movie or something, but she said she should go home and had to finish some school work (it was like 8 or 9 by then). Since I took the bus she offered to drive me home even though it was far and in the opposite direction from her house.

So we got to my place, she still said she had to go home. Ok, so now I know the kiss is coming so I got a bit nervous (I've only kissed 3 girls before). We hug, we look at each other and I go for it. We start kissing and I quickly feel her tongue in my mouth. We keep kissing for a minute and stop. She tells me to text or call her and I say I will. I kiss her again for a minute and get out of her car.

So up to this point I saw she's probably into me right? So I send her a text later saying we need to get together again and suggested sometime next week (since I remember her telling me she was busy on the weekend). She comes back and apologizes because she's not available next week.

I've since seen her twice online, so I've usually said hi. She was never talkative, which is distinctively different from before we went out. Before we talked online once in a while and she was very talkative. As well she texted me pretty often from when I got her # to when we went out.

Anyway, it seems clear that she's either lost interest or she's playing games. Would no contact be the best in this situation?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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No contact will protect your ego, but it's not going to make her interested again.

If she's really lost interest, there's not a lot you can do. Just send a random, funny txt every little while, or invite her out to something that you're going to do with or without her. Basically value-giving stuff that doesn't require a response from her. Like I said, if she's lost interest you're probably just gonna have to find someone else, but there's no harm in putting out a little more effort.
 

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Matt281 said:
No contact will protect your ego, but it's not going to make her interested again.

If she's really lost interest, there's not a lot you can do. Just send a random, funny txt every little while, or invite her out to something that you're going to do with or without her. Basically value-giving stuff that doesn't require a response from her. Like I said, if she's lost interest you're probably just gonna have to find someone else, but there's no harm in putting out a little more effort.
Yeah well I was gonna try and date a couple girls at a time anyway. I'm not the best with women and should really hit the field more. There is one girl I work with that may be interested, but she doesn't really want to date a co-worker. She's even said that if either of us were to stop working there she'd date me. But that's not what this thread is about so nevermind that.

I don't really know if the girl I went out with has lost interest. It's just weird that the vibe I get from her is different. I know she's stressed with work right now so maybe that's it but not sure.
 

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Scion said:
Went out with this girl on the weekend. First date in probably 2 months. Anyway, we seemed to have a fun time. She was visibly nervous, and confessed that she was nervous and thought I stood her up (because she didn't meet me where I told her to meet me, lol). We grabbed some coffee, walked around a mall and talked. Lead her around, which she wanted (she even told me that she doesn't care where we went, it was up to me). Eventually we sat down, grabbed a bite to eat.

After eating I suggested we go back to my place to watch a movie or something, but she said she should go home and had to finish some school work (it was like 8 or 9 by then). Since I took the bus she offered to drive me home even though it was far and in the opposite direction from her house.

So we got to my place, she still said she had to go home. Ok, so now I know the kiss is coming so I got a bit nervous (I've only kissed 3 girls before). We hug, we look at each other and I go for it. We start kissing and I quickly feel her tongue in my mouth. We keep kissing for a minute and stop. She tells me to text or call her and I say I will. I kiss her again for a minute and get out of her car.

So up to this point I saw she's probably into me right? So I send her a text later saying we need to get together again and suggested sometime next week (since I remember her telling me she was busy on the weekend). She comes back and apologizes because she's not available next week.

I've since seen her twice online, so I've usually said hi. She was never talkative, which is distinctively different from before we went out. Before we talked online once in a while and she was very talkative. As well she texted me pretty often from when I got her # to when we went out.

Anyway, it seems clear that she's either lost interest or she's playing games. Would no contact be the best in this situation?
Sounds like her interest level went down. The problem I see here is that you're giving her too much control of the frame.

If you had not texted her when she told you to, her interest level would have risen! After all, you should only be texting her when you want a date and want to be romantic/sexual.

This is why it really really helps to spin plates, because it gives you other things to do so you're dividing your "playa time" between different girls and not giving one too much attention at once.

It IS possible that you rushed her with that makeout session.
You might have broken comfort with her and made her uncomfortable around you.
It could be that you didn't warm her up enough for the kiss, like she wanted it so she went for it, but then she realized she felt uncomfortable and had to leave.

Who knows man...women think with their feelings and her feelings are different from yours.
Your feelings always come before hers.

No contact should be automatic after every date.
Next time, DON'T schedule the next date and leave her wondering when she's going to see you again.
Then either you contact her or she contacts you awhile later.
 

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I'm in the Mood said:
Sounds like her interest level went down. The problem I see here is that you're giving her too much control of the frame.

If you had not texted her when she told you to, her interest level would have risen! After all, you should only be texting her when you want a date and want to be romantic/sexual.

This is why it really really helps to spin plates, because it gives you other things to do so you're dividing your "playa time" between different girls and not giving one too much attention at once.

It IS possible that you rushed her with that makeout session.
You might have broken comfort with her and made her uncomfortable around you.
It could be that you didn't warm her up enough for the kiss, like she wanted it so she went for it, but then she realized she felt uncomfortable and had to leave.

Who knows man...women think with their feelings and her feelings are different from yours.
Your feelings always come before hers.

No contact should be automatic after every date.
Next time, DON'T schedule the next date and leave her wondering when she's going to see you again.
Then either you contact her or she contacts you awhile later.
there any way to turn it around? or should I just chalk it up to bad luck / learning experience and walk away?
 

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That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

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She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

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No... There is absolutely nothing you can do other then go NC and find another chick.
 

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Don't go full no contact yet, but contact her the week after and try and get her out then. Block her offline till then and don't text/call either. If she contacts you before but doesn't mention going out then either don't reply or cut the convo and hang up. If you see her say you've been busy and you gotta go - then contact her the week after.

And as said, don't put your eggs in one basket - keep the game up with some other girls.
 

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Jay Dee said:
Don't go full no contact yet, but contact her the week after and try and get her out then. Block her offline till then and don't text/call either. If she contacts you before but doesn't mention going out then either don't reply or cut the convo and hang up. If you see her say you've been busy and you gotta go - then contact her the week after.

And as said, don't put your eggs in one basket - keep the game up with some other girls.
seems to be solid advice. Basically make her think I'll as busy as her. And yeah, I want to keep the game up with other girls but not too successful, lol. This is as much success as I've had in the last year.
 

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Jay Dee said:
Don't go full no contact yet, but contact her the week after and try and get her out then. Block her offline till then and don't text/call either. If she contacts you before but doesn't mention going out then either don't reply or cut the convo and hang up. If you see her say you've been busy and you gotta go - then contact her the week after.

And as said, don't put your eggs in one basket - keep the game up with some other girls.

If your gonna try this approach, give it more than a week. A week isn't anything.
 

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Weezy said:
If your gonna try this approach, give it more than a week. A week isn't anything.
k, then how long? Don't forget that we've only been out once, and she said she was busy this week coming up, not the next few weeks.
 

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Scion said:
Would no contact be the best in this situation?
Actually it's the only thing in this situation - she will ignore you anyway :rolleyes:
 
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