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FR at a party & need advice

Learning2Crawl

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I went to a party with one of my good friends who lives in a different area than me - so I knew no one at this party.

I walk in and start going right to work. Pound out a few beers, introduce myself to a bunch of people, and then get on the beer pong table.

Anyways, after a few games my partner got tired of playing, so I needed a new partner and grabbed this HB. The HB didn't have beer, so she was drinking out of the same bottle as me. She was eye ****ing the **** out of me and was one of the best beer pong players I have ever seen. We didn't lose the entire night and played like 15 games together. I initiated a lot of kino while we were playing throughout the night while playing.

Finally, the party is like dead and everyone is leaving. We are sitting on a couch together and one of her male friends is sitting next to me acting like a complete phag trying to mack on the HB. Spitting some of the worst game I have ever seen, I was embarrassed for him. And he was **** blocking me in the process. I ended up getting her phone # and shortly after she left. No kiss close.

+ signs:

- She was asking me some personal questions about where I lived, nationality, etc.
- Eye ****ing me all night.
- Lots of Kino during.
- Showed me her tattoo that was on her side, that I touched for more kino.
- Gave me her number without hesitation.

- signs:

- I tried to escalate by grabbing her thigh very late in the night and she put my hand down. I think a lot of it was due to the fact that her other friend was there and she was uncomfortable.

My problem is she lives like 30-40 mins away from me and I probably won't run into this girl again. I was thinking of texting her, but not really sure what to text.

I need something witty. I was thinking of something along the lines of how good we are together at beer pong and then saying something at the end like "when are we going to see each other again?"

Any advice / text suggestions?
 

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CantTouchMyStyle

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Sounds like you could have banged this girl's brains out...?

I am confused how it didn't go any further.
 

46and2aheadofme

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I would go for something like this: "So I'm thinking of hosting a BP tournament at my place....We should be partners since we tore it up the other night"

I would call her when I propose this (not text) and see if she could come over to "practice". You don't actually have to go through with it, just a way you might be able to get her over.

I would also throw in "maybe bring some friends and we can have a little kick-back". I would have some buddies to wing-man it and possibly be ready to isolate any friends she might bring. You will look like a loner if you invite her over for BP and don't have anyone else playing.

If she's the party type I think this would be more successful than a coffee date, but I guess it depends if your looking for a lay or a LTR.
 
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