"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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FR: Another lunch FR.

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So at lunch I walked around and I approached a few sets of girls, this is how it went.

Approach #1
It started when I approached the group at lunch and I opened with “Hey, so how are you guys doing?” and one the girls basically just starts talking. Basically, through the whole set, me and one of the girls at the table just vibed, while the other 3 girls basically did their own thing. At one point, AMOG comes into the set and starts talking to the chick while I’m talking to her and chick keeps eye contact with me, while the other dudes talking. Eventually though, she puts her attention back to the AMOG guy. Once in the set when chicks were telling me their names I was like “Wait, who’s Hallie and who’s Stephanie” since they were sisters, then she says “I’m Hallie, she’s Stephanie” and I go “Ah, I see, I can tell the difference because you have your hair in a ponytail, but your sister has her hair down”. The set ended when I saw the girls weren’t really interested in me, so I just got up and went to approach another set.
Approach #2
So I go up to the senior lounge and eventually start talking to the two girls and the guy there. The set starts when I ask Rebecca how swimming was going and she tells me she apparently didn’t swim, just liked swimming. Eventually, I don’t know how it started, but I just start beat boxing and the girls start beatboxing and ask me to freestyle. I tried to freestyle for the hell of it and they laughed, cause I sucked at it. At one point Allie says “Mike let’s go get drunk” and I start telling her how I hate people who drink and she agrees. Later in the set, Rebecca asks me to sing a song from my band and I tell her I don’t have a band yet, so I just make some song up. I start singing “This is a song about a girl named Rebecca!” and the girls start laughing. Then I say “And a girl named Allie who loves to get drunk!” while kinoing her and she just laughs. Yeah, so that stuff happens and eventually the interaction starts going back to the girls and I just sit there listening.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Need some input guys.
 

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No you don't. They were excellent, i think we can all learn a thing or five from them.
 

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Yeah, so that stuff happens and eventually the interaction starts going back to the girls and I just sit there listening.
instead of sitting there listening, just #close right then and there and get it over with. Hell, numberclose both of them with some innocent "we should all hook up sometime" or whatever, and leave. Sitting there doing nothing, lowers your IL
 

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ElStud said:
Need some input guys.

you don't talk to them smoothly, you sound pretty dorky

u gotta be smooooooooth not lame
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Ostepop said:
instead of sitting there listening, just #close right then and there and get it over with. Hell, numberclose both of them with some innocent "we should all hook up sometime" or whatever, and leave. Sitting there doing nothing, lowers your IL
Good advice there man.

Real said:
you don't talk to them smoothly, you sound pretty dorky

u gotta be smooooooooth not lame
Dudes, it's not about WORDS man. Plus, I don't know if you're just choosing to ignore it, but I did say they were interested and yes, they were indeed interested. That's why guys like you shouldn't give advice, you think it's all about words and have no idea what sub communication and conveying things are and those things matter WAAAAY more then what you're actually saying(Guys can say the stupidest, nonsensical sh1t to the girl and if they're conveying their personality correctly, they can get her. It just takes a strong frame" and AFC's have weak frames).
 

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ElStud said:
Dudes, it's not about WORDS man. Plus, I don't know if you're just choosing to ignore it, but I did say they were interested and yes, they were indeed interested. That's why guys like you shouldn't give advice, you think it's all about words and have no idea what sub communication and conveying things are and those things matter WAAAAY more then what you're actually saying(Guys can say the stupidest, nonsensical sh1t to the girl and if they're conveying their personality correctly, they can get her. It just takes a strong frame" and AFC's have weak frames).
It's not about the words, but how you say them. It's obvious you haven't heard of the 7% is words, 35% is voice tonality, which includes talking smooth, and the rest is body language.
 
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