For the Mystery haters (Video included)

[Snow Plowman]

This is for the Keyboard jockeys who love to make rationalizations. Saying it's all about the looks, money, fame, etc. Here is a little clip I stumbled upon and yea it speaks for itself.

I personally don't do Mystery Method but I respect that man for putting in so much effort to come up with what he came up with and actually understanding social dynamics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1loAxTH_Jw

It's obivous this is for marketing due to his show coming up and to get people to take his HIGHLY expensive bootcamps. (25,000 to take a 1 on 1 with him ) But instead of looking at the purpose of the video, just look at it from the perspective of the lifestyle he is living. Mystery surely has come a very long way.

but yea this if for you KJs out there, if you want to go out you can...there's still hope. Just don't wait until your near death to actually want to out.

 

[Dongfu]

Personally, I didn't see that many girls on this video that I'd like to hit. A lot of them look a little trashy, and are smoking cigarettes. If I were to judge Mysteries success by this "Montage of mediocre women," I'd say, "not the worlds best PUA."

 

[ViciousDADogg]

Don't playa hate mystery. He can do the same.

 

[StoneColdFox]

It's early but i'll still try to sound intelligent.. *sigh*

The mystery method wasn't a bad read. Just like every "method" and "technique" I think there are appealing parts and not so appealing parts.

The portions of his book I enjoyed are the portions that remain true to every "technique and method". Parts that stress confidence and having a fun nature and parts that explain the idea that a "ten" gets hit on all the time, so you might have to use a different "approach" then you would a five or six to differentiate yourself from the other 14343 guys that hit on her.

Other things such as peacocking, and routines..eh.. not my cup of tea, routines seem to planned.. but if you read them, with a little tweaking can still be used as a decent conversation.

Never take everything to heart with these books guys, no there isn't one truthful "technique" to get women.. but sociologically speaking there are aspects of human nature that everyone finds attractive.. Confidence, being fun, and sometimes being a "challenge" (I use that word very lightly).

These books still are great because they are sociologically accurate, for instance, if a women gets hit on 243434 a night, you are going to have to tweak your game to make yourself stand out. Other things stand true as well such as becoming to clingy and needy, most women hate it, Becoming a "challenge" in the sense of making her wonder, being spontaneous, but at the same time still fun natured.

But things like wearing three watches to "peacock" or having set openers, it probably might work on some women, but not all.

But in the mystery method and all books, there are sociological aspects that remain true no matter what.

-SCF

 

[ViciousDADogg]

Never take everything to heart with these books guys, no there isn't one truthful "technique" to get women..

In other words. That technique mystery puts down in his book, is mystery's technique. It works for him. But not for you and me. Only thing you can do is read it, go out practice, and make something out of it that works for you.

In no way there is something you can do to get women. It's not a 1 2 3 plan and you get laid. Every material out there is for you to improve yourself. The sure plan to get laid is to work on yourself.

 

[StoneColdFox]

Thanks for re wording.

My minds jumbled this morning haha.

 

[Roulette]

I believe Mystery is very good at picking up women. No doubt about that.

However, I would not in any way shape or form want to become anything like him. His "style" is very robotic and soulless. After reading The Game, I really can't help but see him as an immature child. Granted, I can't believe everything I read in a book.

Kudos,
Matt

 

[rakishness]

Cool Video. Mystery looks like a PIMP. I usually try to ignore those "gurus" but if it works for him and the people who use it....then more power to him.

BTW.....Is this Mystery's apprentice? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8byrJlVLfI
His name is Mehow.
Here is another vid with him and Mystery.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs_RkQMTN-4&mode=related&search=

 

[NickBe]

You said yourself its a promotion video. When I make promotional videos I hire actors. Not saying he hasn't got game but just because its on video it doesn't make it real.

 

[Bonhomme]

The important thing is "What does this mean for us?"

I wonder how much of his success can be attributed to his looks and (as of late) his fame?

The real way to tell how good any "method" is lies in what an average guy can make of it.

 

[NickBe]

Also you need to factor in the Mystery is rich and has been for quite some time. I am not disputing if looks and money are essential or not I am just disputing the validity of this video.

 

[Snow Plowman]

In other words. That technique mystery puts down in his book, is mystery's technique. It works for him. But not for you and me. Only thing you can do is read it, go out practice, and make something out of it that works for you.

In no way there is something you can do to get women. It's not a 1 2 3 plan and you get laid. Every material out there is for you to improve yourself. The sure plan to get laid is to work on yourself.

Exactly, basically take what's good for YOU and discard what's not.

BTW.....Is this Mystery's apprentice? His name is Mehow.

Something like that, he took a MM bootcamp probably a year or two ago not sure. Then he eventually came out with his own techniques and stuff. For some reason I like him, because he explains that he learned from many and his whole outlook of the game isn't single minded (Learning from 1 camp) and he also seems to always be up for improving.

You said yourself its a promotion video. When I make promotional videos I hire actors. Not saying he hasn't got game but just because its on video it doesn't make it real.

Yes I know what your saying, but I highly doubt it since I've seen some of those exact pictures and the video clips were clips that used to be on youtube awhile ago. (I'm talking about 3-10 mins of just him with that stupid camera all on him and the girl)

The important thing is "What does this mean for us?"

I wonder how much of his success can be attributed to his looks and (as of late) his fame?

The real way to tell how good any "method" is lies in what an average guy can make of it.

There were a few guys who had before and after pics on TMM site. I must say they were some great transformations. Not to mention Mehow he still looks horrible and even wears glasses, but as far as I know he gets results.

Also you need to factor in the Mystery is rich and has been for quite some time. I am not disputing if looks and money are essential or not I am just disputing the validity of this video.

Just think about before he had the fame and money. I'm talking about back in 2001-2002, when I read his archives back when I first started he was clearly the best of that time and he was getting results then.

 

[NickBe]

Maybe, maybe not. He might have been getting women back then or it could be all a lie he used to start a successful business. I honestly do not know or care about Mystery I a just saying to not believe everything you see. In my business every now and then you find out that a guy that has been in the business for 10 years and claims to have 30 years experience actually has no idea what he is doing.

 

[strong like bull]

hats off to mystery and the other guys for cashing in on a money making opportunity. i wish them the greatest success imaginable.

self-help and therapy, seminar businesses are a big cash cow. take age old information, re-wrap it and put a pretty ribbon on it and pawn it off as the "ultimate secret" for success in xyz.

i just still cant justify spending big bucks to "learn how to be successful with women." the confidence, fun, masculine drive and energy and all that good **** that draws women to us comes from within. its not something money can buy. its not something that can be fixed by remembering scripts and bogus conversation topics. what happen to, you see a girl thats attractive and you want to fvck, so you go over and say hi?

if youre trying to mack on a babe and you arent secure with yourself as a person, either she'll smell your bull**** a mile away or you'll get blown out of the water by an alpha male type who jumps in on the conversation. scripts and lines wont save a guy whos going up against a man whos congruent and believes in himself.

im not against mystery or any of the guys who make money off this stuff. and i think its great that his career is helping guys who cant help themselves. some people need extra encouragement and guidance. thats understandable and happens in all different aspects of life.

i just never really understood why "seduction" had to be made into such a science experiment. if men put as much focus, effort, time and money into achieving great things for themselves instead of putting it all into attracting girls... theyd have a successful, confident life and the girls part would work itself out. a quality man has women chasing HIM. he doesnt have time to play games and try to hypnotize women into liking him 'cause hes too busy having fun with life.

-SLB

 

[Monkey]

Well theres one thing that video shows, its how an average looking guy can get some women however skanky they may appear...

 

[I'm Joe Dirt]

The problem I have with Mystery is that its too focused on just the pick up part. He provides solid information and strategies and explanations but what you learn there doesn't make you grow as a person.

David DeAngelo's stuff on the other hand is far reaching and goes far above and beyond just "say this and that and you can score" but focuses more on making yourself more interesting and making you more aware of the world around you.

 

[Phyzzle]

Well theres one thing that video shows, its how an average looking guy can get some women however skanky they may appear...

I didn't see that many girls on this video that I'd like to hit. A lot of them look a little trashy, and are smoking cigarettes.

BTW, Snow plowman, have you noticed that any picture of any female placed on Sosuave, is rated a "6"?

Hey guys!! Bonus internet points for telling us that you see far hotter women all the time!!

 

[Analytic]

What are you trying to prove? Mystery has the looks (hes not ugly), the money and he does have fame maybe not the kind of fame the girls like but he has all 3 things.

 

[Snow Plowman]

What are you trying to prove? Mystery has the looks (hes not ugly), the money and he does have fame maybe not the kind of fame the girls like but he has all 3 things.

To give some hope to the KJs. You know the guys who blame it on the man's looks and fame when he's been doing it before he had the money and fame. The KJs who say "O his girls aren't hot" but yet there not pulling no sort of pusvy whether it was a 1 or 2.

It's for the few guys who will actually see it, be inspired and actually delete there World of Warcraft account and go outside and learn this.

Me personally all I do is throw sh!t out there, I know 90% of the people who read it won't do sh!t but that 10% will actually do it.

There really is MANY people on sites like these wasting there life. Like why would you be on a self improvement site if your not improving, your just reading. It's impossible to get good if your not out there actually approaching.

Mystery did it and he got the rewards, and I've seen many guys pictures of how they were before. It was a huge improvement in there overall life, appearance, and there whole energy.

Look at some of the RSD pictures lets see what else the KJs have to say to rationalize the facts of why they are good...

http://becometransformed.com/tyler/

http://becometransformed.com/hoobie/

http://becometransformed.com/ozzie/

I'm just leaving it at that, like I said some will look a this stuff and just go on to the next material that they can get there hands on. The select few will get motivated to turn off there computer and go out.