"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Now, I am in Mass and this girl is back home in NJ. I went out with her once before I left and mentioned I would be home in a few weeks. I also told her I may be back in NJ permanently (If I get into Rutgers grad school.

Below is her response to my e-mail. I said I would be home in a couple of weeks and it would be nice to see her and maybe go out on a double date with my other friend and his Colombian g/f too! This girl is also Colombian (notice the bad English) I am not too sure where she got "I am against dating as well".

HERE IT IS FELLA's, PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A WOMAN TELLING ME. LJBF, BUT IN A BULL**** KIND OF WAY.



"hola handsome, it is nice to know you are comming home, I'm against dating as well, special after some experiences i had have, but if you want to go out as a friends i will definately do it. I am just not used to date probably. Bye, Angelita"
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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well at least she said it righ off the bat. would you rather she played hot and cold for the next 5 times you took her out and waisted your time.

now email her back and tell her you are totally fine with it and you wana take her out just as friends. she might change her mind
 
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Originally posted by spider_007
well at least she said it righ off the bat. would you rather she played hot and cold for the next 5 times you took her out and waisted your time.

now email her back and tell her you are totally fine with it and you wana take her out just as friends. she might change her mind
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I dont kno where you live BUT, I would CALL HER and tell her this.


Reason being is so that when you plan/pick a day to see her you can use the "Im busy this day, Im busy the next but, Im free this day" line to show her shes not the only piece of fish in your net, you can do it in a email (I guess) but I think it would be weird.

 
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Use a little psychology on her. Make her think that she is not the only fish on your plate. Sometimes, that will get them in romantic mode real quick.
 
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that doesn't really seem like a LJBF, and if it is, it doesn't look like it'll be hard to get outta it
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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mmm it's funny, a girl just gave me pretty much the exact same line as that one gave you.

Totally agree that its bull**** because it doesn't sound like a lets be friends line, but it doesn't sound good either.

"things are shaky between my ex and I, so ill go out with you as friends because i don't want to take part in leading somebody on"

....except ive already kissed her and established that shes attracted to me and that its over with her ex.

Womenese sucks ass, but im not done with the particular chick in question yet.
 
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Originally posted by Mintyfresh
mmm it's funny, a girl just gave me pretty much the exact same line as that one gave you.

Totally agree that its bull**** because it doesn't sound like a lets be friends line, but it doesn't sound good either.

"things are shaky between my ex and I, so ill go out with you as friends because i don't want to take part in leading somebody on"

....except ive already kissed her and established that shes attracted to me and that its over with her ex.

Womenese sucks ass, but im not done with the particular chick in question yet.
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yours is a lot worse than his, i mean she has e/x boyfriend drama that's just woah
 
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Originally posted by mahon83050
I said I would be home in a couple of weeks and it would be nice to see her and maybe go out on a double date with my other friend and his Colombian g/f too! This girl is also Colombian (notice the bad English) I am not too sure where she got "I am against dating as well".

HERE IT IS FELLA's, PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A WOMAN TELLING ME. LJBF, BUT IN A BULL**** KIND OF WAY.

"hola handsome, it is nice to know you are comming home, I'm against dating as well, special after some experiences i had have, but if you want to go out as a friends i will definately do it. I am just not used to date probably. Bye, Angelita"
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I'm suprised nobody recognized her reply as ASD (Anti Slut Defense). mahon83050, if you learn anything from this thread, learn this ...

You do not tell the girl you would like to date her
You do not tell the girl you would like to have sex with her

If you want to date her, then ask her out. Do not call it a date

If you want to f*ck her, give her context to go back to your home or her home

Maximus_Decimus
 
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Re: Re: ******** for I am not romantically into you.

Originally posted by Maximus_Decimus
I'm suprised nobody recognized her reply as ASD (Anti Slut Defense). mahon83050, if you learn anything from this thread, learn this ...

You do not tell the girl you would like to date her
You do not tell the girl you would like to have sex with her

If you want to date her, then ask her out. Do not call it a date

If you want to f*ck her, give her context to go back to your home or her home

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Which is exactly the reason why im not worried about my nearly identical situation.

Besides even if this "lets go out as friends" line isnt merely the antislut defense, it's not like women know what the fvck they want ... EVER. So i plan to just let her know that she wants me without ever actually having to say it.

But still sucks that its like learning another fvcking language when talking to women heh.
 
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When a girl is willing to go out as "friends," what does that **** really mean? Anti slut doesn't really ring clear to my ears. Maybe she just doesn't like the guy. When I get that friend ****, i let them no that I cant be friends with anyone I want to have sex with. Friends = no booty for you, or a long 3 month wait and a whole buch of corny pet names goof talk bs.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Originally posted by SELF-MASTERY
When a girl is willing to go out as "friends," what does that **** really mean? Anti slut doesn't really ring clear to my ears. Maybe she just doesn't like the guy. When I get that friend ****, i let them no that I cant be friends with anyone I want to have sex with. Friends = no booty for you, or a long 3 month wait and a whole buch of corny pet names goof talk bs.
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the 3 month, pet name and goof talk BS is LTR material, if your looking to get the Dyck wet then move on to easier more applicable catch

and actually being inbetween friendszone and relationship zone is the only time there is a wait, pet names or anything which most girls don't put guys, they either put them as a friend and nothing more nothing less or dateing material hardly do guys ever get placed inbetween
 
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