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First time you call/text a girl. Do you have a special recepie?

Oxide

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Would be interesting to brainstorm all the fun things to do when you first call / text a girl. Or just see what works for people

For me, if there is a lot of connection (which I try to go for) I might give her a nick name and use it, otherwise I just the situation

Usually on the first text/call I always feel like I am about to write/say something dumb.. but as soon as the first one is finished it's casual and normal.

I remember someone saying to introduce yourself as "Hi <girl's name>, it's me"

but then I had funny results with this - girls thinking I was some other guy (And me busting them on that :whistle: )

Have at it.
 

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For me the only purpose in the first call is to set up a date. First off, on a personal note, I'm not a phone person anyway. I'm not one of these people who likes just chirping away on the phone for hours on end. Secondly, I think the purpose of the first call is to set up a date, and then get off the phone. Maybe say a few nice things like "how was work, how was your day, etc" then move on to setting something up. Once it's set, say you're busy and have to run. I think after you've banged a girl, and the ball is in your court, then you can spend some more time on the phone if you choose too. But prior to sexing her, I'd keep phone conversations to a minimum because you can't kino-escalate over a phone. You need physical chemistry to get in a girl's panties and you simply can't do that over the phone.
 

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Well, yes but we don't want to be too stiff on the phone and too business like, do we?

So besides the how was your day, what would you say to achieve more chemistry?


I have some friends that spend hours on the phone. Two things - those relationships are really co dependent, they usually end ugly and I can't fathom doing it.
 
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