"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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first time at a night club

Wutermelon

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Sup Don Juans,

Well, tonight was the first time I ever have gone to a night club since I recently turned 21. To be honest, I felt completely out of my element and I believe that every women that I approached sensed it. I was pretty much rejected from the majority of women that I approached although there were a few that were receptive. However, not to the level that I'd like. One of the few things I struggled with was in the initial approach on the dance floor. I'm not sure what the best approach is considering it was my first time in a night club. One of the things I did was just outright dancing with the girl and this worked for a little bit. Some girls danced for a few minutes then just decided to leave. So in this case...what is the best way to go about dancing on the dance floor with available women? It seems tough considering most women are with about 2-3 friends.

Another thing I struggled with is the conversation after the dance. I just completely blank out after I have grinded on some random girl's ass. It's so weird. I have no trouble holding conversation or being witty, but for some reason after a dance I just bomb in terms of talking to the girl. In addition, I have trouble hearing what the hell people are saying in the club because it's so damn loud. I think I messed up my chances with a cutie for the very reason that I could not make out what the hell she was saying to me haha.

Any general tips for a rookie like me in the night club? I mean, I still had fun in there, but I didn't achieve the success with women that I'd like.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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DonJuanit0

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I don't see any problem here! You were actually very open and that was good!

"If you want to be successful faster you must double your rate of failure"
 

Chamber36

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DonJuanit0 said:
I don't see any problem here! You were actually very open and that was good!

"If you want to be successful faster you must double your rate of failure"
Very motivational words.

Every night in a club is different. The club scene evolves.

a club might be a cool place where all the 10's go to have a great time, and they are receptive to anybody with good posture. Then the 10's leave. You get more inexperienced women, younger women. Their ego gets stroked by inexperienced men. Then they act *****y.

These women wouldn't see a gold nugget if it hit them in the vagina.

I work in a club. I have been clubbing twice a week for about 4 years now. I used to have a lot of success as an oblivious fool. I feel like the market is getting saturated with AFC's. If we were to spread this material to all the men who were bad with women, we would have the upper hand.

We need to enable other men with the information we have, so that they know that they deserve respect. Don't stroke women's ego's unless they deserve it. In other words, you can buy her a drink if she made out with u. You can give them a compliment if it's genuine, but calibrate it.

I always follow up a compliment with an excuse or a second question. Something to show them that you aren't there to stroke their ego's. You are there to stroke your own.

I like to say: "I see your bra matches your (other article of clothing)" that's always a good one, because they don't know if it's a compliment.

PS: To clarify, I'd like to state that I think the quality of girls in the club drops gradually from september. We will probably have to wait full circle around june next year, for the best quality women. I'm telling you, that's what I've seen in my experience.
 

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First, major props for putting yourself out there. Most guys would stand in the corner scared sh@tless their first time in the club.

Meeting women on the dance floor can be tough. It's honestly not my specialty so I'll defer to other guys here on that one.

But the part of your post that stood out in my mind was when you said you "have no problems with conversation or being witty.". That tells me you might be a naturally better TALKER than a dance floor guy.

It sounds to me you would do even better at a BAR. Or if you do the club thing, meet women off of the dance floor, hopefully in a slightly quieter section so you can use you verbal game. The bar area of the club might be good for you.

But all means learn club game including dance floor game if you like. You just started anyway. But always be aware of where your strengths are. Some guys are very physical and practically own the dance floor. Others are smooth talkers that shine at the bar.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Wutermelon

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Thanks for the advice and encouragement guys. It's great knowing there's a place where men genuinely want to help each other. I suppose I should play to my strengths, but at the same time try to improve my weaknesses.
 
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