"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Field report - What more could you do with this 2 set? Most guy wouldnt even approach

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"All right Joe, what you thinkin'?"
That's how it starts.
"We go in, get a table, just chat it up with everyone, look for a set."
He seemed to have it all planned out.
"I thought we weren't gonna sarge today?" I'd say, hinting that I'm tired, and not feeling it tonight. I kinda just want to eat and not be bothered.
"You're guywhoneedshelp This is what you do" he'll say, and it will remind me of my identity. It will remind me of the skills I spent years learning. It will remind me, that I don't need to be reminded, because what's about to happen next is completely uncontrollable at this point. I do it unconsciously.
"You're right. But you're Joe, come on man."

We enter. *sigh*, it's Applebee's again. Second week in a row. This time I decided to make it interesting. We have a pivot. An attractive female friend that is used to build social proof, open sets, create jealousy, and distract any obstacles that may be present. In turn, I show her a good time, occasionally buy her food, and pay for the entrance fee to clubs for her (which will sometimes be cheaper than the actual price, because clubs like when you reel women in.)

This should be easy. But I'm tired, hungry, and I have work tomorrow. Plus, I'm a mess. I'm sporting JBF hair, wearing a hat to hide it, and my shirt looks like it's in need of ironing.

The 3 of us sit at the table. It's a slow day here at the restaurant. As always, we chat with the staff. They love us. I have them laughing. We're having a good time.

Then he points it out to me. I slowly, nonchalantly look behind me, and notice the set.

"So is this your set or mine?" I ask.
"Yours." He tells me, even though he pointed it out.

I wait. I allow them to sit down. I have enough experience doing this to know that I don't want any interruptions when I go to work my magic, so I wait until the waitress takes their order. I don't want to be restricted to a 3 minute time frame. I then notice that there is about 7 of them, maybe more. They are hot. Obviously college girls. I love that. So I had to think of something. If I wasn't prepared they would chew me up and spit me out. Then I reminded myself, these girls are horny to be ****ed. The girl at the bar is horny to be ****ed. The girl at the library is horny to be ****ed. They are all equally, if not more, horny to be ****ed than the average guy. They just need the right guy to charm them. Apparently tonight, it's me.

"Hey man do you have your sunglasses with you?" I had an idea.
He hesitates, and says "Yea what you gonna do?"
"Watch this" I tell him, as he hands me the sunglasses, my lock-in prop. I hand them to my pivot, she's looking lovely, much more lovely than me. Good. I grab my digital camera. I told her, "all you need to do is look cute, and hand me the sunglasses."

So here it goes. He rolls his eyes at me, as if this isn't going to work. "I'll be over there in a minute to wing for you."

I remember the 3 second rule.

One...I already start walking.
Two...I act as if I pass their table, but notice them...
Three...I open. This is all part of the game.

"All right so my friend over here, he spent a ridiculous amount of money on these sunglasses, and he is convinced that they make anyone look cool. So let's find out."

They take the bait. They always do.

They respond with middling interest. This is to be expected, and it's all part of the game.

There were so many of them, I couldn't choose a specific target, so I stuck with the one closest next to me. "Would you like to go first?" I say as I have my pivot hand me the glasses. "I'm serious, he claims to have spent over $200 on these." She is reluctant at first. Her ***** shield is there, but I'm tearing it down. She complies, and says "What's the camera for?"

"Well, I've done this before, and we always compare and contrast the pictures afterwards." The camera is merely a prop I use to determine who is showing enough interest in trust to let me take their picture. So once I explain to her her I'm not going to sell her picture on the internet, she complies. She's hooked. Just like a fish.

"Who's next?" I say, looking around the table.

Someone volunteers. Yet another one hooked.

Joe comes in to wing. I introduce him. We're having fun at this point.

I snapped a photo of about 4 of them, although I probably could of had pictures of all of them. They even snapped a photo of me at once point. They were clearly having fun. I probably could of stayed, but I gave them the false constraint - "I better get back to my table, my foods coming soon." I decided to let them miss me. As I walked away I heard one of them say "We'll miss you!" Very cute.

When it's time to go, I remembered I had them all hooked. I allow a half hour to pass, so now it was time to pull. I took out my notepad and pen, and strutted over there.

"All right so I'm not going to make these pictures public, because I wouldn't want to humiliate you all (neg), but if you ever want to see these pictures again, here's how you can." I write down my name, and MySpace URL. "Since you wore the sunglasses first, I'll give this to you." I hand her the paper. She tells me she was having trouble reading my handwriting (**** test) so I sit down. She makes room for me and says "please sit down." I ask her to show me that her handwriting is any better. I could of told her to write her contact information down, but I knew that wasn't necessary. They'd be contacting me shortly. So I told her to write a sentence.

"Kevin is gay. Just kidding, we love Kevin <3" Another playful tap on my shoulder. I rewrite my stuff, in an overexerted and neat fashion. She points out the feminine design to my notepad, seeing as there was a heart on the front cover. Clearly, it only proves to her that their are women in my life, which draws in more of them. I told her "Yea I think an ex actually gave me this, she knew I liked to write things down."

After some playful chat, I left the table. I said to my wing and pivot, "Ok, we have to go now. It's time to go." I was in control. I was the dominate male. They all noticed. I had successfully pulled a 7 set.

We walked out of the restaurant, and it was different than when we walked in. I was no longer tired, hungry, feeling like crap. I was the man. I did what I was meant to do. Make all these girls laugh and have a better time than they would of if I wasn't there. It's my calling in life.

My life wasn't always like that 5 years ago, I had minimal to no women in my life. But I decided to change that, by becoming an expert in social dynamics. Maybe sometimes I'd follow up and hang out with these girls again (or at least 1 of them), but nowadays I'm too busy. There are too many women gravitating within my reach. I don't have time to add any more to the roster right now. I'll send them their pictures, but that's about it. It's not important that I have sex with every woman I come in contact with. I have standards.

But this is our life, This is what we do. This is why we can go anywhere and have fun. This is why although I hate clubs on Long Island, I still have a blast. When you understand these social dynamics, you can do anything.

So this is what happened this time, in this true story. The most recent story. It's how we live. We enjoy it. We love the drama, and love what we learn from it. We love beautiful women, and I don't apologize for that.

It was 11PM. Our night was just beginning. We still had a party and a club to go to.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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glad someone else is out there approaching...I think I've met maybe 25% of the guys who go out and approach on this forum, and that's only 4-5 guys so I have 15 more guys that ACTUALLY does cold approaches on this forum, out of the millions.

As I say just go out...

Nice to see your tearing it up on the island and bringing it to the city every so often. Big sets always turn out to be very fun especially if your ALONE.
 

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Smooth

That's all I can say, very very smooth....

GWH, are you a student of Tyler Durden? you talk about social dynamacis a lot. I belive its important when you approach a set, to have fun and present something a women hasn't seen before. You did a good job with the "glasses" thing, does that work in a club as well or just in resturants/malls?

good fr's

-Solo

p.s. how long have you been in "the game"?
 

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Glasses thing was something I did at the Dave and Busters bar on Monday. My friend didn't think I could approach a mixed set of 4 guys and 1 girl. I had my friend Joe's sunglasses with me, because I wanted to show my friend Mike "can you believe he left these things in my car? They look ridiculous. He claims he spent over $200 on them." So I did the approach and took pics with my cell phone, posted them on Joe's Facebook and it was a little inside joke between us that those sunglasses could "make anyone look cool." Good routine that is used anywhere that is not too loud, in which people are sitting down.

I've been on and off in the game because I've made the mistake of getting into relationships and forgetting all about the game. But I've studied this stuff for about 5 years now, and have just gotten back into it heavily about 3 months ago. ( I was in a relationship for a little over a year)

Social dynamics - Not so much inspired by Tyler Durden although it is helpful to evaluate some of his lines I think. Social dynamics is what the mystery method teaches. I recently read his book cover to cover.

Long Island / New York City - Girls are 10x different in the city. I've gone to the city once every Saturday for the last 8 weeks, each time bringing different people. I'm taking a break this week though.

Definitely getting out there though I'd say at least 4 nights a week, staying out late 2 of those nights. (Day game all 7, it comes natural at this point)
 

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guywhoneedshelp said:
Glasses thing was something I did at the Dave and Busters bar on Monday. My friend didn't think I could approach a mixed set of 4 guys and 1 girl. I had my friend Joe's sunglasses with me, because I wanted to show my friend Mike "can you believe he left these things in my car? They look ridiculous. He claims he spent over $200 on them." So I did the approach and took pics with my cell phone, posted them on Joe's Facebook and it was a little inside joke between us that those sunglasses could "make anyone look cool." Good routine that is used anywhere that is not too loud, in which people are sitting down.

I've been on and off in the game because I've made the mistake of getting into relationships and forgetting all about the game. But I've studied this stuff for about 5 years now, and have just gotten back into it heavily about 3 months ago. ( I was in a relationship for a little over a year)

Social dynamics - Not so much inspired by Tyler Durden although it is helpful to evaluate some of his lines I think. Social dynamics is what the mystery method teaches. I recently read his book cover to cover.

Long Island / New York City - Girls are 10x different in the city. I've gone to the city once every Saturday for the last 8 weeks, each time bringing different people. I'm taking a break this week though.

Definitely getting out there though I'd say at least 4 nights a week, staying out late 2 of those nights. (Day game all 7, it comes natural at this point)

I heard that New york city girls are the most beatiful, and also stuck up in the world. I don't know if thats true however my sources (friends) don't lie. However I belive any girl can be "gamed" (for lack of better words) if your frame of mind and game are strong
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I've stayed in contact with people I've met in the city, but I've never created a sexual relationship out of any of them (not yet). I think the key would be to use logistics to your advantage, for example, I live on Long Island so they are going to "miss" me so that if I ever do get the chance to hang out with them they wouldn't miss it for the world. But the reality is most of them live such fast paced lifestyles that they will always have someone else to hang out with so they never seem to view any one of them as "special". The one girl I hung out with at her dorm, we seemed to of hit it off, but every time I've let her know I was coming back she was either busy, visiting home, or the one time she actually did meet up with me she was with another guy who was visiting from Long Island. (lol)

They are the most stuck up. And someone like me who doesn't have so much time to waste on a particular girl may have a tough time getting them into the bed, although there are a handful who seem prone to the "one night stand" which is something I never really seek but will accept if it's the only option.
 

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Solomon said:
I heard that New york city girls are the most beatiful, and also stuck up in the world. I don't know if thats true however my sources (friends) don't lie. However I belive any girl can be "gamed" (for lack of better words) if your frame of mind and game are strong
Interesting...I don't think it's the most beautiful even though I haven't been elsewhere and I'd rather go to the source of where some of these women are coming from...haha...But It is by far the most diverse, anyone can find there type here because there are so many different types of girls.

If girl's here are the most stuck up, then I don't want to meet chicks anywhere else because over here approaching is like a playground and generally all interactions go good...I personally have never got blown out Horrifically, but I did see a friend of mine yesterday who did...it caused me to open them later and it did, but when I seen the blowout, it was HARSH.

guywhoneedshelp said:
But the reality is most of them live such fast paced lifestyles that they will always have someone else to hang out with so they never seem to view any one of them as "special". The one girl I hung out with at her dorm, we seemed to of hit it off, but every time I've let her know I was coming back she was either busy, visiting home, or the one time she actually did meet up with me she was with another guy who was visiting from Long Island. (lol)
This is by far the biggest problems...logistics and becoming an actual HUMAN in her life. It's that B&T BS of chicks being from NJ, CT, Upstate NY, or another state and country what makes this game so much more fast paced. It is a must that you followup with #s HARD and FAST...I learned my lesson...

EVERY model that I've ever messed with or # closed this year ALL were too busy and most of them I didn't really break into there world as quick as I should've because I was busy and flaking alot. Another chick now works 2 jobs and has 4 classes so she's always busy...All that I can really do is on my free time, just mass text it and keep my #s for a LONG time.

This is one of my reasons why I hate day2s and #s now because of that BS, I tend to always try to push for the sameday lay to solidify it. Only problem with this is logistics...Ugh
 

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Day 2 pulls are a sticking point for me. Especially with girls in the city. One girl I was really hitting it off with at plunge, she taught me salsa dance, everytime I walked away she'd grab me by the tie and make me dance some more. Eventually had a comfort building conversation, sitting with her at one of the reserved tables, she gave me her business card. Even her friend told me "call my friend, she loves you"

I call about a week later her manager is like "she can't accept personal calls" so I was like FVCK what do I do! I just said forget about it I told him to give her a message but when he asked what the message was in regards to all I could say was "Just saying hello" but whatever. She lived in Connecticut anyway!

Snow, since you don't live far from me, we should really hang out as PUA's some day and discuss some of this stuff. I've seen you work the streets which is something I'm not used to, and we've both worked venues together where I've given you the occasional tap on the shoulder for social proof. But other than us walking in the streets with like 10 of my friends we never really got to talk, and after reading THE GAME by neil strauss I realized how important it is to talk about some of this stuff in order to learn.
 

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guywhoneedshelp said:
Snow, since you don't live far from me, we should really hang out as PUA's some day and discuss some of this stuff. I've seen you work the streets which is something I'm not used to, and we've both worked venues together where I've given you the occasional tap on the shoulder for social proof. But other than us walking in the streets with like 10 of my friends we never really got to talk, and after reading THE GAME by neil strauss I realized how important it is to talk about some of this stuff in order to learn.
Yep your right...I've recently been going hard trying to articulate the things that go on in my head, I'm getting MUCH better at it...next time you come out will surely exchange mindsets and beliefs, I recently chatted with this one MM based type of guy who did a lot of PIVOT/Slow game type of thing...

He brought 4 very feminine chicks to the venue I was at...the chicks just jumped in his car, I've also seen 3 of his hot pivots, and we were just chatting for a bit and he had some cool beliefs and sh!t, which is why I'm always willing to meet new guys.
 

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ok guys although i loved the story, im calling BS on this guy... his story sounds INCREDIBLY similar to the foreward of the mystery method. like all he did was change a few details and change the ending.... dont believe me, check it out yourself...

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPR11,M1

scroll down a few pages to the "foreward"
Yes, you are absolutely right. I did model the entire story after the foreward because I love the nonchalant way Neil Strauss wrote it.

However, the story is true that I posted. I did however steal half the lines from his foreward, oh no. I just really love the style of his writing.

After all we do learn from what is called deferred imitation. We learn by imitating. Ever since I read that, I wanted to do something like that. I wanted to feel those emotions. And I did.
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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