Field Report: the MMO player's girlfriend

[Wolfgang D]

This is from a few years ago, but I thought it could be educational.

I cold opened a girl in the street in a funny way; I was passing by her and was wondering how I could strike up a conversation, and because I was looking at her instead of straight forward I slipped on the ice. She asked me if I was hurt, and I smiled. We went on together.

I asked about her studies, things like that, and when I saw where she lived - not a dorm, but an apartment building - I figured she must be in a relationship. But wisely I didn't ask her. Guys, never ask if she is in a relationship. If she says yes, then she can't keep seeing you without looking bad. Let her tell you after you have gotten to know each other.

I didn't ask for her phone number, a girl in a relationship will be reluctant to give you that. Instead I found a reason to get her email address, because I wanted to send her something that had to do with her studies, I said.

Brief emails followed. At this point she did tell me that she had a boyfriend, and she said she didn't want to lead me on. Note: you don't say anything about dating if she has a boyfriend! You just say it is nice to get to know a new person anyway, and then you change the topic.

Finally I told her I had nowhere to go on Saturday, woe is me, and she could come over for a while if she liked. She did. We sat in the couch, talking and having ice cream and coffee. Eventually I wanted to move her from one side of the couch to the other so she would get a better background when she looked at me, and lifting her over my lap naturally led to her ending up in my lap instead. Coitus ensued. Go ahead and use this way to initiate sex if you like.


About her boyfriend: I still don't know his name. If a girl has a boyfriend but is seeing you on the side, you don't ask about his name, or anything about him. If she wants to tell you, let her, but don't make it a discussion. Let her feel that when she is with you it is all about the two of you together, like a vacation from her relationship.

However, I learned that the guy is addicted to an MMORPG, similar to World of Warcraft. He is one of the big guys in his "clan" or "guild", top level and top gear, with lots of duties toward his clan mates. Meanwhile he spent almost no time with his live-in girlfriend, and now she was stuck there, having moved far away from her friends and family and changed schools to live with him. He didn't work out, didn't do anything about his dead-end job like he had said he would, didn't like to go out much, and they rarely had sex. He was nothing like he had been when they were dating.

He would rather play an MMO than spend time with this very, very sexy girl. Incredible.

We started seeing each other now and then. She felt bad for this at first, she was really not the type to do that, but she needed someone who appreciated her, and who would show her some passion again. And who had a good-looking body. When she brought it up, I told her to pay no attention to the advice columns in women's magazines about sleeping with someone else. Of course they will say it's always bad, to be on the safe side, since they are only interested in writing a safe, uncontroversial column at work. But the truth is that there are times in life when sleeping with someone else is justified: when partners aren't living up to their part of the deal, it is hard to get out of the relationship, and you feel you are going to burst if you don't get some good sex soon.


At one point I went over to her apartment building late in the evening to say good night, and we ended up having sex at the bottom of the stairway, she leaning forward against the wall. A quickie. While her boyfriend was maybe 40 feet above us in their shared apartment, playing his MMO.

Eventually it just petered out, just like most dating. Cheating stories usually don't end in dramatic ways like in the movies, they end when one or both parties lose interest. But I don't regret it and neither does she. I have still seen her around now and then, and we are both comfortable with that. Sometimes we have made out again, but going back to sleeping with each other would be risky, I think.


Moral of the story: don't waste your life on MMOs or any other time sink, especially not when you have a hot girlfriend you should be paying attention to.

Tip from the story: when you want to sleep with a girl who has a boyfriend, never mention "date" or "cheating" or "boyfriend". Instead act like you are going to see each other just to do some interesting activity together, so that she doesn't have to formally agree to cheating.

 

[BigSmooth]

Good story. I enjoyed it. I knew a girl who dated some MMO addict a few years ago. She ended up cheating and eventually leaving him because all he would do was play that game. Those games are addictive.

So you just "moved" her accidentally into your lap huh? :rockon:

 

[JoeMarron]

Another moral of the story. Hot chicks are not special. A man can get bored with them just like he can with any other woman. If he was neglecting his girl that much then he probably wasn't too upset when she left.

 

[JohnChops]

Good story. I enjoyed it. I knew a girl who dated some MMO addict a few years ago. She ended up cheating and eventually leaving him because all he would do was play that game. Those games are addictive.

So you just "moved" her accidentally into your lap huh? :rockon:

those games ruined me from grades 6-8, i still play em from time to time but damn that story was great.

 

[Wolfgang D]

Good story. I enjoyed it. I knew a girl who dated some MMO addict a few years ago. She ended up cheating and eventually leaving him because all he would do was play that game. Those games are addictive.

So you just "moved" her accidentally into your lap huh? :rockon:

Hey, glad you enjoyed the story, guys. Yeah, just accidentally.
Ever since my teens I have had two ways to initiate sex, and that is one of them. They may sound silly in their simplicity, but since they work I have no need to change them. They are just things that give you a reason to hold her without asking awkwardly, "Should we make out?" or just leaning in toward her out of the blue.

Some people say tricks don't work, but the thing is, you remember a few tricks that do work for you, and use them when opportunity arises.

Another moral of the story. Hot chicks are not special. A man can get bored with them just like he can with any other woman. If he was neglecting his girl that much then he probably wasn't too upset when she left.

I understand how you might see it that way, but note what I wrote: "He didn't work out, didn't do anything about his dead-end job like he had said he would, didn't like to go out much, and they rarely had sex. He was nothing like he had been when they were dating."

He had been briefly living in the town where she was studying because of work, and then went back to see her a couple of times, and she went to stay with him when she could. At that time he made an effort, but when she changed schools and moved in with him he stopped making an effort. There were also setbacks at work for him, but rather than dealing with them, maybe trying to find a new job, he escaped into the MMORPG. Or maybe it was the MMORPG that caused the setbacks at work.

This girl was on fire when it came to sex, one of those girls who really love it and wants to do it every which way. She felt like she went crazy when she didn't get any good sex. Any guy who has been in a relationship with a lousy sex life knows what that feels like. I had no qualms whatsoever for making her cheat on that guy. Cases are different. Relationships are deals, and in this case, the guy dropped the ball big time.


This is not the first time I have seen a relationship ruined by MMORPGS. There are at least two other cases that I know of. There was a girl in my dorm when I was studying, a very attractive girl who was fun to be with. Her boyfriend was also good-looking and had a working social life. But he got caught up in World of Warcraft. Whenever they saw each other, that was practically the only thing he could talk about, which "dungeons" the guild had raided and how it went. Finally he wised up and sold his account for about $250, but by then it was too late; she had tired of him and left. It caused her much grief, but she couldn't stay. Why should a sexy girl at age 21-22 stay with a guy like that, when she can have her choice of men? Some might say the breakup was caused by hypergamy, I say it was hypergaming.

 

[JoeMarron]

I understand how you might see it that way, but note what I wrote: "He didn't work out, didn't do anything about his dead-end job like he had said he would, didn't like to go out much, and they rarely had sex. He was nothing like he had been when they were dating."

This proves my point. That's not the behavior of someone who's excited about the relationship. Sure this is a lesson in not getting complacent in a relationship but its also a lesson that hot chicks aren't special. Some of these dudes here complaining about their oneitis being the hottest girl they've ever had needs to know this.

 

[BigSmooth]

This proves my point. That's not the behavior of someone who's excited about the relationship. Sure this is a lesson in not getting complacent in a relationship but its also a lesson that hot chicks aren't special. Some of these dudes here complaining about their oneitis being the hottest girl they've ever had needs to know this.

This is the behavior of someone who has been sucked into the digital pandemic of America...where you can basically build a second life online.

Sounds to me like the girl is of at least decent quality.

those games ruined me from grades 6-8, i still play em from time to time but damn that story was great.

Years ago back in middle school I was addicted to a game called Runescape. So I definitely understand the appeal of MMOs and the addiction they can easily cause.

Hey, glad you enjoyed the story, guys. Yeah, just accidentally.
Ever since my teens I have had two ways to initiate sex, and that is one of them. They may sound silly in their simplicity, but since they work I have no need to change them. They are just things that give you a reason to hold her without asking awkwardly, "Should we make out?" or just leaning in toward her out of the blue.

Some people say tricks don't work, but the thing is, you remember a few tricks that do work for you, and use them when opportunity arises.

Can you expand on this? Sounds like an interesting move. You're basically sitting on the couch and you pick her up?

And I wouldn't call it a "trick". Rather...it's a proven process that works.

I have a simple but effective one where I "teach" the girl to drive my manual car. Gives me a legitimate reason to KINO.

 

[LiveFreeX]

I understand how you might see it that way, but note what I wrote: "He didn't work out, didn't do anything about his dead-end job like he had said he would, didn't like to go out much, and they rarely had sex. He was nothing like he had been when they were dating."

How is this any of your business? Do you actively seek out men from MMOs and raid their women? You stole from a geek, wow, this is a new low. Why don't you go steal from the guy who collects guns down the street, or the rich guy who rides around in a lambo? It's cause you prey on the weak and you know you can't do any better. There are plenty of rich guys with bored wives, but you choose to kick a dog when he's down eh? Steal from the blind kid in the wheelchair. If you think you are good, then lets see you bang the gun nuts wife in his own home.

However, I learned that the guy is addicted to an MMORPG, similar to World of Warcraft. He is one of the big guys in his "clan" or "guild", top level and top gear, with lots of duties toward his clan mates. Meanwhile he spent almost no time with his live-in girlfriend, and now she was stuck there, having moved far away from her friends and family and changed schools to live with him. He didn't work out, didn't do anything about his dead-end job like he had said he would, didn't like to go out much, and they rarely had sex. He was nothing like he had been when they were dating.

He would rather play an MMO than spend time with this very, very sexy girl. Incredible.

Dude you are a loser, obviously as you had to pick up someone's used garbage. What the hell is with all the cheating to hit this board suddenly? When did PUAs all of a sudden decide that it was ok to steal people's stuff? Christ you guys are sad.

Secondly FU, I play MMO's and I don't give a sh1t about my wife or what she thinks about my gaming... you have a problem with that, then its YOU who is the loser. He can probably get 100 women just like her, while you have to settle for his *** dumpster. You are getting sloppy seconds dimwit and you are trying to convince yourself that its somehow ok to 'raid' his stuff. She's doing you to make him jealous, nothing more, eventually she'll go back to him if he doesn't toss her to the side. What a nice guy you are, buying in to all her bull**** sob story and convincing yourself how much of an angel she is... yes he just doesn't appreciate her, thats it!

There's nothing wrong with hobbies or play time and NONE of them should be abandoned for women. Has the GAME taught you idiots nothing? You concentrate on bedding low quality women who are the property of other men and you perpetuate the Western woman culture. You are a fvcking idiot guy, MMO's are 100% way more fun than women. Riding in fast cars, more fun than women... eating a good pizza is more fun than talking to women...doing a math problem or taking a dump is more interesting than talking to most women.... thats why men do things and accomplish things that have nothing to do with women. Take it from me, my full time job is talking to lonely bored women, they are mostly boring as fvck. Women are not the be all end all of everything and you idiots are pedestalizing them, encouraging their slutty behaviour and then patting each other on the back for doing so. You are obsessed with women, you are LESS of a man than he is, big deal, you fvcked his girl but in the end, he was doing what he liked while you are pandering to women instead of doing something more productive.

Then I hear the argument "if you don't do it someone else will"... wtf kind of rational is this for a PUA? We come from an abundance mind set, not one of lack... there is more than enough good women out there for you, you don't have to go and poach someone's gold. If you are just out to hit it and quit it, then you are a loose cannon, a broken person, no one can trust you. I am disgusted by the lack of morals most of the PUAs on this forum have and I hope I never meet most of you IRL. Why would I want to bring a man to my house that I can't trust to have around my woman? What kind of a rat are you? You are the filthiest, scumiest, most v1le piece of sh1t on the Earth and you did it all for a cheating woman's love. You stole from this man, and I do believe home invasion warrants death in the USA when you reside in another man's castle. You broke into his home with the intention of destroying and desecrating HIS property and you did it for no LOGICAL reason, you are scum wolfgang. You are just lucky you live in the Western World, in the Eastern, you'd be strung up by your balls and stoned to death.

Sickening.

 

[BigSmooth]

Secondly FU, I play MMO's and I don't give a sh1t about my wife or what she thinks about my gaming...

YOU who is the loser.

NICE brahhj what level is your night elf? Can you pl0x give me 5million gold??

He can probably get 100 women just like her, while you have to settle for his *** dumpster. You are getting sloppy seconds dimwit and you are trying to convince yourself that its somehow ok to 'raid' his stuff. She's doing you to make him jealous, nothing more, eventually she'll go back to him if he doesn't toss her to the side.

Someone is obviously butt-hurt. Did you die in a PvP battle today? Oh no...did you lose your BEST weapon??

There's nothing wrong with hobbies or play time and NONE of them should be abandoned for women.

To an extent. When you are sitting on your COMPUTER...playing a VIDEO GAME all day...is that a hobby, or a useless addiction?

You are a fvcking idiot guy, MMO's are 100% way more fun than women.

Wow you are a straight up loser. But looking through your post, I can see how the only way you can socialize properly is through a computer screen...to other losers that are behind a computer screen.

Riding in fast cars, more fun than women... eating a good pizza is more fun than talking to women... thats why men do things and accomplish sh1t that has nothing to do with women.

There is a huge difference between riding a fast car, and even eating a good pizza for that matter, and sitting on a computer all day.

Women are not the be all end all of everything and you idiots are pedestalizing them, encouraging their slutty behaviour and then patting each other on the back for doing so.

You have really bad reading skills. But then again, you don't need to be a huge reader to be good at an MMO.

Then I hear the argument "if you don't do it someone else will"... wtf kind of rational is this for a PUA?

So is this the new generation of PUAs? MMO raid expert by day...PUA by night. Maybe they should make a movie out of you. "LivefreeX of Steel". :rockon: :rockon:

you don't have to go and poach someone's gold.

Wait it sounds like you play MMO's??!!

If you are just out to hit it and quit it, then you are a loose cannon, a broken person, no one can trust you. I am disgusted by the lack of morals most of the PUAs on this forum

95% of the people here are not PUA's.

I hope I never meet most of you IRL.

You probably won't since you're at your computer all day...but maybe I'll be on at 6pm tonight??!!! :cheer: :cheer:

Sickening.

You got that right.

 

[LiveFreeX]

Worlds of FAIL, take the blue pill much there Bigsmooth?

 

[Wolfgang D]

How is this any of your business? Do you actively seek out men from MMOs and raid their women?

Ouch, I can tell right there that you didn't read the story. In that case you would have already known that I approached her before I knew she had a boyfriend, so that answers the first question in your diatribe.

You stole from a geek, wow, this is a new low.

How do you know it's the lowest? But I get it; you simply wanted to use a stock phrase, it makes you sound like the professionals.

Why don't you go steal from the guy who collects guns down the street,

Actually I am probably the most well-armed guy on my street, so that wouldn't be a challenge.

Dude you are a loser, obviously as you had to pick up someone's used garbage. What the hell is with all the cheating to hit this board suddenly? When did PUAs all of a sudden decide that it was ok to steal people's stuff? Christ you guys are sad.

Hmm.... Judging from your weird ramblings I have probably slept with a lot more women than you have - you don't exactly sound "alpha" with those unhinged emotions, know what I mean? So who's the loser. By the way, that girl was the only one I have slept with who had a boyfriend obsessed with computer games. So nah.

And why do you call it "sloppy seconds" if a girl isn't a virgin, LFX? What a crappy attitude. You shouldn't treat women like garbage.

Secondly FU, I play MMO's and I don't give a sh1t about my wife or what she thinks about my gaming... you have a problem with that, then its YOU who is the loser. He can probably get 100 women just like her, while you have to settle for his *** dumpster. You are getting sloppy seconds dimwit and you are trying to convince yourself that its somehow ok to 'raid' his stuff. She's doing you to make him jealous, nothing more, eventually she'll go back to him if he doesn't toss her to the side.

More proof that you didn't actually read what I wrote. Then you would know that he never found out, so no, it had nothing to do with making him jealous. How strange that you think you can determine something like that from a distance.

"He can probably get 100 women just like her" ---How would you know? You know practically nothing about the guy and you make a statement like that! Is it because he is a fellow MMO gamer, and you MMO gamers are the hottest stuff?

This is the key to your firebrand typing, I gather:

Secondly FU, I play MMO's and I don't give a sh1t about my wife or what she thinks about my gaming... you have a problem with that, then its YOU who is the loser.

You are actually talking about yourself, right? You are scared that your gaming is affecting your relationship ... and that your wife could find someone who isn't obsessed with games.

And no, I don't have a problem with you not giving a sh1t about your wife. But if I did, why would that make me the loser? Where's the logic in that?

I have to admit, I do find this funny:

I am disgusted by the lack of morals most of the PUAs on this forum have and I hope I never meet most of you IRL. Why would I want to bring a man to my house that I can't trust to have around my woman? What kind of a rat are you? You are the filthiest, scumiest, most v1le piece of sh1t on the Earth and you did it all for a cheating woman's love. You stole from this man, and I do believe home invasion warrants death in the USA when you reside in another man's castle. You broke into his home with the intention of destroying and desecrating HIS property and you did it for no LOGICAL reason, you are scum wolfgang. You are just lucky you live in the Western World, in the Eastern, you'd be strung up by your balls and stoned to death.

Well, first of all, if we lived in the Middle East there wouldn't be a forum like this one. Second...

...LFX, take a deep breath. This isn't about you. Understand? This isn't about you. No one here is after your wife. Maybe she will sleep with someone else - you explicitly state you don't "give a sh1t" what she thinks about your gaming obsession, that's a hole you are digging for yourself, but no one HERE is after your wife. The story isn't about you. You can safely go back to your game.

 

[foreverAFC]

i stopped hanging out with one of my best friends cause all he did was play WOW. he was dating this girl too, who was real nice, and basically ended up moving his computer into her house where he would spend all day and night playing WOW while she went to school and work, she would come home and either take him to dinner or cook him a meal, and then she would drive him around to buy pot and beer so that he could smoke and drink while he played WOW and ignored her until he was horny and wanted sex, and if that was ridiculous enough, he met some other female online and then had her fly down here and ****ed her for two weeks back at his moms house until she went back home, and then he was right back at his original gf's house playing WOW the night the other chick left like nothing had even happened, this guy was fat, out of shape, didnt work, didnt even have highschool diploma, and still he was able to get a chick so attached to him emotionally that he was able to live like this for several years until the girl finally had enough, i stopped hanging out with the guy long before that cause i would drive over to hang out and he wouldt even look away from the computer long enough to say hi

 

[BigSmooth]

Worlds of FAIL, take the blue pill much there Bigsmooth?

What, does the blue pill increase your health levels or something in your MMO? Really brah, stop with the gaming references. You're overdoing it.

 

[Wolfgang D]

i stopped hanging out with one of my best friends cause all he did was play WOW. he was dating this girl too, who was real nice, and basically ended up moving his computer into her house where he would spend all day and night playing WOW while she went to school and work, she would come home and either take him to dinner or cook him a meal, and then she would drive him around to buy pot and beer so that he could smoke and drink while he played WOW and ignored her until he was horny and wanted sex, and if that was ridiculous enough, he met some other female online and then had her fly down here and ****ed her for two weeks back at his moms house until she went back home, and then he was right back at his original gf's house playing WOW the night the other chick left like nothing had even happened, this guy was fat, out of shape, didnt work, didnt even have highschool diploma, and still he was able to get a chick so attached to him emotionally that he was able to live like this for several years until the girl finally had enough, i stopped hanging out with the guy long before that cause i would drive over to hang out and he wouldt even look away from the computer long enough to say hi

That is a really sad story about wasted time. For the girl and the guy, and for you, losing a friend.

It reminds me of this story, with an extreme result: South Korean Couple Lets Baby Die While Nurturing Virtual Child

The Next Web reports that a couple in South Korea has been arrested for allegedly allowing their prematurely born baby to starve to death while they were busy tending to a virtual kid at an Internet café.

The couple reportedly fed their baby only once a day between 12-hour stretches of play-time with a popular role-playing game called Prius Online, in which they were busy raising a virtual kid. The autopsy report of their baby showed the death was a result of a long period of malnutrition.

"The couple seemed to have lost their will to live a normal life, because they didn't have jobs and gave birth to a premature baby," said South Korean police officer Chung Jin-won. "They indulged themselves in the online game of raising a virtual character so as to escape from reality, which led to the death of their real baby."

They even have summer camps in South Korea to wean guys and some girls off their internet addiction. There they get to do outdoors activities like rope climbing in trees, swimming etc, to learn to enjoy a healthy lifestyle.


In China, I have heard, most of the guys in college play online games for hours every day, leaving the girls frustrated that they can't find an alpha guy.

 

[HalfAddict]

All you guys saying he "stole"... He didn't steal ****.. That nerd LOST HIS GIRL.... He lost her a long time ago, and he didn't bother to look for her.

Wolfgang FOUND her though, and showed her a good time.