Feminism is a sh*t test

[Urbanyst]

Women still try their best to date UP today despite feminism. Women don't like to be higher on the food chain than the men they are dating.

Feminism to me seems like a sh*t test to see if men really are better than women. Obviously the people at the very top are still men and that will probably never change. But every sh*t test is really a strength and value test. She wants to know "is this guy better than me?"

Whenever women start to out perform men they lose respect. I've experienced it in relationships and at work. At work it only happens if the woman is the same age as me or younger. Older women get angry if you out perform them at work.

Feminism has to be a joke because women don't RESPECT men who are equal or less than them. They only respect men who are higher on the food chain than they are.

You guys who act desperate and needy are ensuring a woman won't respect you. You can't be the weak needy one who wants to make it work. That has to be her. If you find yourself in that position of being weak and needy or calibrating your behavior to impress a girl, it means you're dating a girl who is higher on the food chain than you are.

 

[btownbuck2012]

feminists are all kinds of screwed up. Even if they do have high IL in you, they'll resent you for it eventually and once they're comfortable and bored with you cheat on you or leave you or get into some weird power struggle in the relationship and screw the whole thing up eventually. Feminists stay with weak men but resent those guys too because they're weak. You can't win with feminists. They're brainwashed and just not worth getting yourself involved with in any way, shape or form.

Women basically use feminism to justify their bad behavior.

 

[Urbanyst]

feminists are all kinds of screwed up. Even if they do have high IL in you, they'll resent you for it eventually and once they're comfortable and bored with you cheat on you or leave you or get into some weird power struggle in the relationship and screw the whole thing up eventually. Feminists stay with weak men but resent those guys too because they're weak. You can't win with feminists. They're brainwashed and just not worth getting yourself involved with in any way, shape or form.

Women basically use feminism to justify their bad behavior.

Yeah, they always want to compete with men. If you beat them, they get turned on, but they also get angry and might keep trying to bring you down. Once they beat you, they lose all respect and attraction.

It really is a lose lose with them long term. I've found they make great short-term girlfriends though because they tend to bring more to the table. However, since women being competitive with men is unnatural, there is no way for that kind of relationship to last down the road. Either the guy has to accept her disrespect and cheating, or the guy has to keep putting her in her place and proving his superiority which eventually gets too tiring to be worth the energy.

You can always date broke girls like cashiers, waitresses, and other jobs with low pay but those girls seem to mostly date other losers in their same social circle. Plus, they are often dumb as bricks and hard to related to. At least for me.

 

[btownbuck2012]

Yeah, they always want to compete with men. If you beat them, they get turned on, but they also get angry and might keep trying to bring you down. Once they beat you, they lose all respect and attraction.

It really is a lose lose with them long term. I've found they make great short-term girlfriends though because they tend to bring more to the table. However, since women being competitive with men is unnatural, there is no way for that kind of relationship to last down the road. Either the guy has to accept her disrespect and cheating, or the guy has to keep putting her in her place and proving his superiority which eventually gets too tiring to be worth the energy.

You can always date broke girls like cashiers, waitresses, and other jobs with low pay but those girls seem to mostly date other losers in their same social circle. Plus, they are often dumb as bricks and hard to related to. At least for me.

To me, feminism highlights the ultimate annoying female trait: Hypocrisy.

At the end of the day women are women and will behave as such, but feminists love to pat themselves on the back for how fair and right they are and will tell you why they are better than men.....that is until you catch them doing typical, disloyal backhanded womanly things only to get a blank stare when you ask them what the hell is going on.

I honestly just laugh it off anymore. That's really all you can do if you want to maintain your mental health.

I remember back in the day I used to tell myself if I can only be GOOD enough for these people, all this bad behavior will disappear. LOL. People who are nuts will continue to be that way regardless of a.) how much money YOU make, b.) how well you dress, c.) how well you f*ck them in the bedroom, d.) your height and muscle mass, etc.

 

[Tenacity]

Women still try their best to date UP today despite feminism. Women don't like to be higher on the food chain than the men they are dating.

Feminism to me seems like a sh*t test to see if men really are better than women. Obviously the people at the very top are still men and that will probably never change. But every sh*t test is really a strength and value test. She wants to know "is this guy better than me?"

Whenever women start to out perform men they lose respect. I've experienced it in relationships and at work. At work it only happens if the woman is the same age as me or younger. Older women get angry if you out perform them at work.

Feminism has to be a joke because women don't RESPECT men who are equal or less than them. They only respect men who are higher on the food chain than they are.

You guys who act desperate and needy are ensuring a woman won't respect you. You can't be the weak needy one who wants to make it work. That has to be her. If you find yourself in that position of being weak and needy or calibrating your behavior to impress a girl, it means you're dating a girl who is higher on the food chain than you are.

Bro this is an excellent analysis.

But we need to start a discussion going more in-depth on some of these exceptions to the rule because it's a complete and utter mind fvck when I go out and see:

Black women with Master's Degrees, PhDs, and good corporate jobs......dating Ol' Dawg from Menace To Society, Ray Ray, Pookie, or (insert some other thug here).

I've brought my own theories to the table in relation to this, but how do you explain it Bro? I mean, I'm not sure we can say these women are trash because they are in the TOP fields making some TOP salaries. But they are indeed dating criminals, thugs, broke men, and all of these men are indeed BELOW them in every way possible, below them financially, socially, politically, based on mobility, etc., etc.

I kind of feel like Will Smith's character at the end of Hitch. I spend all of this time spreading theories on women, then at the end, a woman does something completely and utterly against ALL that I thought a woman would do......then I just end up saying there ARE NO theories, like Will Smith's character said at the end.

Because I'm getting to that point. Plus, if you guys had a COPY of the text messages and phone calls I do with women.....with my routine calling her of "boo", "baby", the various voices I use, etc.....NOBODY on this forum would approve of it and EVERYBODY on this forum would tell me it wouldn't work (even though it's the core of how I get laid) .

 

[sazc]

@Tenacity those women do that because they are broke psychologically, because somewhere during their childhoods, something went wrong in terms of how they value themselves and what kind of men they were going to date. Just because someone achieves a college degree, that doesn't mean you are of sound mind when it comes to dating/relationships. That only means you are now educated to perform a profession.

Consider this, a child that was locked in a cage and treated like an animal until they were 12. Then they were rescued and cared for and went to college and got a degree. Do you really think they are of sound mind to date and have successful relationships? Not unless they have done some heavy duty work on themselves.

Look at yourself - you have a college degree and you are using it, but you still haven't resolved your own childhood issues, and are finding it incredibly difficult and frustrating to date. You refuse to even look that far back, into your past, and deal with your anger and resentment, to see if it cold solve some of your present day issues with women. You, like the females you are constantly baffled by, refuse to pull back the curtain and figure out how your past really affects your present.

Sorry, dont mean to harsh on you, but you continue to be 'baffled' by the decisions these well educated black women make. I've just explained it, and I think I've explained it to you before.

Stop personalizing their behavior. Why do you care what they do? What they do isnt about you. Go work on you, for real.

 

[Tenacity]

@Tenacity those women do that because they are broke psychologically, because somewhere during their childhoods, something went wrong in terms of how they value themselves and what kind of men they were going to date. Just because someone achieves a college degree, that doesn't mean you are of sound mind when it comes to dating/relationships. That only means you are now educated to perform a profession.

Consider this, a child that was locked in a cage and treated like an animal until they were 12. Then they were rescued and cared for and went to college and got a degree. Do you really think they are of sound mind to date and have successful relationships? Not unless they have done some heavy duty work on themselves.

Look at yourself - you have a college degree and you are using it, but you still haven't resolved your own childhood issues, and are finding it incredibly difficult and frustrating to date. You refuse to even look that far back to see if it cold solve some of your present day issues with women. You, like the females you are constantly baffled by, refuse to pull back the curtain and figure out how your past really affects your present.

Sorry, dont mean to harsh on you, but you continue to be 'baffled' by the decisions these well educated black women make. I've just explained it, and I think I've explained it to you before.

Stop personalizing their behavior. Why do you care what they do? What they do isnt about you. Go work on you, for real.

I hear you and yes, I'm continuing to work on my issues daily. I've been getting better, but I have ways to go.

Here's my question to you though Sazc because like many main topics on this forum, there are two sides arguing what the explanation is of the issue.

- Sazc and others will say that these types of black women are "damaged", that's why they are choosing Ol' Dawg, Ray Ray, Pookie, and all other types of losers.

- But then there are others on this forum, telling me that they are choosing these men because they are more MASCULINE or have better "game" or something?

So which is it?

 

[sazc]

I hear you and yes, I'm continuing to work on my issues daily. I've been getting better, but I have ways to go.

Here's my question to you though Sazc because like many main topics on this forum, there are two sides arguing what the explanation is of the issue.

- Sazc and others will say that these types of black women are "damaged", that's why they are choosing Ol' Dawg, Ray Ray, Pookie, and all other types of losers.

- But then there are others on this forum, telling me that they are choosing these men because they are more MASCULINE or have better "game" or something?

So which is it?

It's both. And it's one, or it's the other. Or it's neither.

If the female is fine and upstanding, and she chooses a man who simply has a blue collar job/earns less, but he isn't going to compromise her freedom, then she's just found someone who makes her happy. it's that simple. Not every female of means needs to have a man who out earns her.

If the female is fine and upstanding, and she chooses a man who could legit put her into a very compromising situation, in jail, in the middle of gunfire, etc, she's got serious head issues. These situations shouldn't even draw comparison from you. They should cause empathy from you as you walk away feeling sorry for her for lacking in so many fundamental places, and relief that you didn't end up with a female that is THAT fvcked up.

You've got to stop comparing yourself to everything and everyone. You are enough. Figure out how to feel that about yourself.

 

[Tenacity]

If the female is fine and upstanding, and she chooses a man who could legit put her into a very compromising situation, in jail, in the middle of gunfire, etc, she's got serious head issues. These situations shouldn't even draw comparison from you. They should cause empathy from you as you walk away feeling sorry for her for lacking in so many fundamental places, and relief that you didn't end up with a female that is THAT fvcked up.

Sazc the problem is, this is the majority of black women. And I'm not talking Tyquesha from the hood, I'm talking about Lisa who now stays in the Suburbs with a Master's Degree who is 29 - 32.

- And I can't help who I'm attracted to, in that I'm mostly attracted to black women.

- I can date outside my race, but I mean....number one I'm not that attracted to them and number two, I'm sorry but there is still a slight race preference situation going on over there. Why would HB8 white Elizabeth fvck with Tenacity (the educated guy doing well for himself) when she can fvck with the many white Tenacitys already on her tip? Plus her family is more likely to be accepting of that. It's like dating outside of my race to get the white man's HOT HB8, is like winning the lottery lol. I've had some HOT white chicks before but the race thing did come into play, it wasn't going to last long at all.

- I feel like I'm in between a rock and a hard place. For more on the black woman shyt, listen to this video right quick, it's very short, but this guy is going to break this down even further:

 

[sazc]

Sazc the problem is, this is the majority of black women. And I'm not talking Tyquesha from the hood, I'm talking about Lisa who now stays in the Suburbs with a Master's Degree who is 29 - 32.

- And I can't help who I'm attracted to, in that I'm mostly attracted to black women.

- I can date outside my race, but I mean....number one I'm not that attracted to them and number two, I'm sorry but there is still a slight race preference situation going on over there. Why would HB8 white Elizabeth fvck with Tenacity (the educated guy doing well for himself) when she can fvck with the many white Tenacitys already on her tip? Plus her family is more likely to be accepting of that. It's like dating outside of my race to get the white man's HOT HB8, is like winning the lottery lol. I've had some HOT white chicks before but the race thing did come into play, it wasn't going to last long at all.

- I feel like I'm in between a rock and a hard place. For more on the black woman shyt, listen to this video right quick, it's very short, but this guy is going to break this down even further:

Jeez, you legit talk yourself out of having 'enough' value....

They say it in the video - the masculiniy that these men talk about is the false alpha male. It's a shame that females fall for the false alpha male, but (apparently) they see him as a provider, and dont care how those needs are met.

You know who can answer your question? A therapist!

Shug ordered Tupac and Biggie killed. Tupac was owed money by Death Row and Shug didn't want to pay. Biggie was killed to make it look like it was an east coast west coast thing.

 

[Urbanyst]

Bro this is an excellent analysis.

But we need to start a discussion going more in-depth on some of these exceptions to the rule because it's a complete and utter mind fvck when I go out and see:

Black women with Master's Degrees, PhDs, and good corporate jobs......dating Ol' Dawg from Menace To Society, Ray Ray, Pookie, or (insert some other thug here).

I've brought my own theories to the table in relation to this, but how do you explain it Bro? I mean, I'm not sure we can say these women are trash because they are in the TOP fields making some TOP salaries. But they are indeed dating criminals, thugs, broke men, and all of these men are indeed BELOW them in every way possible, below them financially, socially, politically, based on mobility, etc., etc.

I kind of feel like Will Smith's character at the end of Hitch. I spend all of this time spreading theories on women, then at the end, a woman does something completely and utterly against ALL that I thought a woman would do......then I just end up saying there ARE NO theories, like Will Smith's character said at the end.

Because I'm getting to that point. Plus, if you guys had a COPY of the text messages and phone calls I do with women.....with my routine calling her of "boo", "baby", the various voices I use, etc.....NOBODY on this forum would approve of it and EVERYBODY on this forum would tell me it wouldn't work (even though it's the core of how I get laid) .

Here is the thing about that. Women value all forms of security.

High powered women with PhD's and lots of their own MONEY are not seeking men with money unless those men are rich. What those women are usually looking for is emotional security. I think they believe dating a broke man ensures loyalty from him and CONTROL over him. These are also women with sh*tty personalities who would drive away a high value man anyway and they know it.

If these PhD women date a hot shot like me or you, they will be insecure that we'll dump them for a younger, HOTTER girl later because we can do that as men. Women with Type A personality disorder don't know how to be passive and feminine. They have to date losers for the emotional security.

That's what I think. Its a thing called "Insecure Rejection" where you reject someone because you think you could never keep them. Its very similar to how a lot of guys won't approach a 10. INSECURE REJECTION. Its a real thing @Tenacity

 

[SmooveMooves]

Ol' Dawg from Menace To Society

This is petty. Maybe you're doing it to be funny. But it's O-DOG. Not Ol' DAWG

 

[SmooveMooves]

I'm not sure how true your sentiments are @Tenacity. I find it hard to believe that all the black women in you sphere seek out gangsters. Maybe its a particular woman's personality you're attracted to you. I could be wrong, as I don't operate in your sphere.

However, I do know that our culture values distribution, use of drugs, thug/hiphop culture and flamboyant lifestyles as status symbols. A mere observation reveals that, so there should be no mystery as to why women would be attracted.

High Status (culturally speaking) = Excitement/Attraction = Attraction/Attention

Though Lisa may be removed for her home in the inner city. Her upbringing and thus what she finds attractive and valuable is not.


The upper class black women I know secretly despise being black and actually try to stay as far away from association as possible, romantically and all. That's why I don't quite understand your "the want a hood n****" experience. Like @Sacz said. It probably has more to do with you than anything.

 

[Von]

I would define ''feminism'' in your threat.... my mom was a feminist in the 1970... she's a self made woman, she brings the income on the table, was raised in a conversative family background...

Yet, she would have voted Trump, she doesnt understand the new ''feminist''.....

Everything move in time.... even definitions..... ''feminists'' in the 1960-1970 were defined by ''getting the write to vote - have access to the job market - have access to university - gender equality''

Now in 2017... feminist might be more in the line of ''men are the evil race''

Feminist was born of civilization ''society'' dominating ''nature'' due to our society technological advantages.

A lot of women coming from ''conservative'' background have issues with feminists.... they all want to be free and sexually open... yet they need the strong alpha male to dominate them.... it created identity crisis in women.... their biological construct became irrelevant...

Now in 2017... men have that ''existential crisis''..... we fall short in everything except income and 1% status..... for the rest women : they do more, earn more, more educated, and all college have 60% women rations.... HECK EVEN IN IRAN!!! Women are 70% of universities (Iran a society who denies women rights)

So yes... feminists is a **** test... its a **** test.... becaus at the end... the women will take her emotions... especially in the moment.... the LTR might get screwed up a bit because the ''women'' will seek emotional,financial,society control etc... etc... she'll blame the guy for doing stuff she is doing or want to do lol (work all day, come home late, bring the money on the table, have amazing sex, and provide)

 

[Masculinity]

I wouldn't touch a feminist with a 10-foot pole.

 

[@Jonanthony]

What about a 8 inch stick??